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Travelling to Longleat centre parcs tomorrow from Shropshire. Hoping to charge between Gloucester and Bristol. Any recommendations?
Isn't that less then 200 miles? Can't you just charge at the site, they have 4 connectors (per car park) and you can book in advance.
 
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yes seems excellent - what avg speed and trip distances; can you distinguish much blending on brake pedal between mechanical and regen ?
( High regen levels always seem for those who weren't previously ICE driving in an an economical max-anticipation/minimimal brake use mode -
physical brakes or regen are both less efficient than not having to deploy them at all. )
So far, 24 miles round commute and a few shorter journeys, I'm not on the motorway, it's 50/50 urban and country lanes, early so not much traffic. I'll be in traffic next week as on 9am shift so I'll see how that goes with no regen - but even no regen is still regen when using foot brake.

The brakes are all regen until the brake pads need to kick in and that depends on my own driving and traffic ahead prediction. With a slow brake the pads kick in for the final ~5 mph or so it feels like, sometimes you can hear them because it's so quiet. I do wonder when I need to carefully go forward to a t-junction for example with creep mode but also holding the car back with the break pads, surely that's a bit of a waste of battery, but I suppose that's not happening all the time.

Mine has a dedicated button on the steering wheel for lane keep assist, makes it a little less of a chore and certainly more practical to toggle (Nice to have on motorways but not B roads)

Does it not have a lane keep assist button on the steering wheel? I though these Kia and Hyundai cars were all quite similar.

In my GV70 I can long press the lane assist button and it turns off the lane keep assist.

Actually I think it does, and I have pressed it but I need to read the manual to check what it's doing, maybe toggling between the 3 modes, on, warning only, off. I think there's an icon on the display. I've not really used the steering wheel buttons yet, there's so many things, not used to it, my previous car didn't even have electric windows lol. I also need to play around with Android Auto.

I'll be going to Cornwall in it in April, I hope to make it between the Superchargers for non-Tesla, from Birmingham to 40 miles past Exeter on A30 from where I live is exactly 200 miles, most people think it's doable as long as not raining, too windy, not too cold etc. Weston-super-Mare is the half way mark so if I go make it there with more than 50% (55% to be safe) then I'll know I can get to the Supercharger, otherwise I'll need to stop for a top-up charge at Exeter. I'll be using cruise control on the motorway, set to 70 which I think is more like 67mph actual. Another way to predict it is I'd have to be getting 3.6 miles per kW or less to not make the full 200 miles. A30 rollercoaster hills lol, regen on the way down, hella electric on the way back up.
 
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if in doubt set the speed to 65. you will save a surprising amount of energy just cutting those 5mph (and the extra time would be offset by not having to recharge for 10 mins)

my parents live 198 miles from my house . I have been to them 3 or 4 times in my ipace and always managed without charging and with 30-50 miles left in the battery.

that is set to 74 on the motorway . I haven't tried it is cold weather however. it would be squeeky bum then but as above I reckon even if it were cold I would make it if I scrub 5mph from my speed.
 
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I know the Tesla charger is cheaper but you are talking about a one off journey. Just stop where it’s comfortable for you rather than worrying about a specific charger.

There are lots of chargers around that neck of the woods, it’s not worth bellyaching around a fixed rigid plan. A mistake a lot of people make is not being flexible.
 
So far, 24 miles round commute and a few shorter journeys, I'm not on the motorway, it's 50/50 urban and country lanes, early so not much traffic. I'll be in traffic next week as on 9am shift so I'll see how that goes with no regen - but even no regen is still regen when using foot brake.

The brakes are all regen until the brake pads need to kick in and that depends on my own driving and traffic ahead prediction. With a slow brake the pads kick in for the final ~5 mpg or so it feels like, sometimes you can hear them because it's so quiet. I do wonder when I need to carefully go forward to a t-junction for example with creep mode but also holding the car back with the break pads, surely that's a bit of a waste of battery, but I suppose that's not happening all the time.





Actually I think it does, and I have pressed it but I need to read the manual to check what it's doing, maybe toggling between the 3 modes, on, warning only, off. I think there's an icon on the display. I've not really used the steering wheel buttons yet, there's so many things, not used to it, my previous car didn't even have electric windows lol. I also need to play around with Android Auto.

I'll be going to Cornwall in it in April, I hope to make it between the Superchargers for non-Tesla, from Birmingham to 40 miles past Exeter on A30 from where I live is exactly 200 miles, most people think it's doable as long as not raining, too windy, not too cold etc. Weston-super-Mare is the half way mark so if I go make it there with more than 50% (55% to be safe) then I'll know I can get to the Supercharger, otherwise I'll need to stop for a top-up charge at Exeter. I'll be using cruise control on the motorway, set to 70 which I think is more like 67mph actual. Another way to predict it is I'd have to be getting 3.6 miles per kW or less to not make the full 200 miles. A30 rollercoaster hills lol, regen on the way down, hella electric on the way back up.

You have a Kona - 64kwh battery? In which case it's basically the same car as my eNiro. We did Birmingham to Falmouth last May, no issues at all. We did stop to charge, but then we were cruising at 75mph on the speedo (so pretty much dead on 70) the whole way, and averaged 3.7mi/kw. Based on the range on the GOM vs remaining distance, I reckon we could have just done it without stopping, but A) we wanted lunch anyway and B) we weren't sure if we'd be able to charge at our hotel.

Suggestions for charging spots:

On the way down - Blue Ball Inn EX2 7JL, just off J30 of the M5. Really nice pub, great food (burgers are excellent!). There's only 1 charger, so you might be unlucky, but if that's the case then there's an easy backup option on the other side of the motorway at Moto Exeter where there's a Gridserve site with 20+ rapids. We stopped for lunch, charged for 45 mins, and gave us enough juice to get to Falmouth with 90 odd miles left.

On the way home - Cribbs Causeway (M5 J17) There's 10+ rapids dotted around various restaurants/shops within a mile or so. We stopped at Mollie's Diner which has 5x 100kW chargers - arrived with ~15%, and a 30 minute stop (enough to go to the toilet and have a drink and bowl of chips) was more than enough to get us back to Birmingham.
 
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Have you also got a MyHyundai card? This can get you cheaper charge rates at some charge points. If you are on Octopus (still useful if not) order an electroverse card as this will also allow you to get cheaper tariffs.
 
This is amusing because so am I.

But no need to stop hopefully, going to use the AC charging on site
there are a total of 2 chargers at longleat and they are always occupied and last time we were there, it was very expensive like 55p and it’s 7kw charger.

You can park outside the lodging overnight for first night I believe, you might be able to run granny charger to the car.

There is a local town near by with Tesco etc and they have 22kw charger - useful for a bit of grocery shopping and top up the car.
 
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there are a total of 2 chargers at longleat and they are always occupied and last time we were there, it was very expensive like 55p and it’s 7kw charger.

You can park outside the lodging overnight for first night I believe, you might be able to run granny charger to the car.

There is a local town near by with Tesco etc and they have 22kw charger - useful for a bit of grocery shopping and top up the car.
are you sure this is the case? i thought all centre parcs had huge banks of EV charging.... i have only seen the ones at Elvedon with my own eyes but was under the impression all sites had been updated.
 
Looks like 4 sockets on 2 posts. - only 3kW


Edit then just 2 in the centre.

 
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Have you also got a MyHyundai card? This can get you cheaper charge rates at some charge points. If you are on Octopus (still useful if not) order an electroverse card as this will also allow you to get cheaper tariffs.
Thanks, I was wondering about this. I've just signed up for Electroverse and ordered a card for free, although I think it can also be done on the app.

Not sure about MyHyundai though as from the look of it it's either a one off £6.45 if I don't want monthly subscription so it might not be worth it for me. https://chargemyhyundai.com/web/en/hyundai-gb/tariffs. Looking at the map there might not be much point for me. I guess I can fork out £6.45 and then it's nice to have :)

Exeter Moto has 32x 250kW Tesla Superchargers.. erm, Tesla, please open those up to non-Teslas.
 
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that sucks... i did a google for centre parcs longleat ev charging and the top hit took me to this page


That is hugely confusing and makes it sound like all centres have an extensive charging infrastructure...... pretty naughty of centre parcs imo.

(for the record i cant recommend Elveden CP enough on this front but they need to be clear not all sites are so good)
 
There were quite a few at sherwood when I went in Nov iirc

The booking seems odd though, you book them for a while, like your whole stay I think, or maybe half stay if your going for a week
I think thy only charge overnight

In regards parking outside your lodge I think all the parcs only allow that up until a set time, something like 10 or 11 pm
They close the carparks and then wardens check so you dont really want to end up on the naughty list ;)
 
that is correct they only charge over night, but that is fine for 99% of people as the point of CP is to leave the car alone for a few days. IF you need a charge asap there are a handful of "normal" chargepoints with the usual fees which run 24/7 i think.... And like you say, they are not really charging bays, they are car park spaces with charging facilities - so you do not move your car once charged - which is the destination charging dream imo.

as for the cars outside the villa. I know historically they allow a very small number of cars to stay for blue card holders, i must say i am disappointed in the direction it is going. I have seen a steady increase in the number of cars all over the site since i have been going there, such that now there are loads of them. A shame as imo CP is in danger of losing its "thing" which sets it apart from other holiday shacks. I know there is nothing natural about CP, but my reason for going there and paying the (insane in school holiday) prices is to get away from cars littering the roads. If they dont have that then i may as well go elsewhere for far cheaper.

(but i digress :D )
 
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Exeter Moto has 32x 250kW Tesla Superchargers.. erm, Tesla, please open those up to non-Teslas.

Loads of gridserve at Exeter and Cornwall services. You’ll be fine without them, signed Tesla owners. ;)

In all seriousness there are oodles of rapid chargers going down to and around Cornwall.

Go on Zapmap and compare Cornwall to Lincolnshire and the whole of wales outside of the M4 corridor. You’ll soon find the charging deserts.


(for the record i cant recommend Elveden CP enough on this front but they need to be clear not all sites are so good)

Spoilt for choice round there, Ionity and Gridserve if coming down from Norwich. If coming up from the south/west you’ll pass MFG and open Tesla within a few miles or another MFG, 2 other open Tesla sites or a couple of Osprey sites depending on what direction you come from.
 
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Loads of gridserve at Exeter and Cornwall services. You’ll be fine without them, signed Tesla owners. ;)

In all seriousness there are oodles of rapid chargers going down to and around Cornwall.

Go on Zapmap and compare Cornwall to Lincolnshire and the whole of wales outside of the M4 corridor. You’ll soon find the charging deserts.

Yeah but people actually go to Cornwall :p
 
Yeah but people actually go to Cornwall :p
lol Some of the coast around East Anglia is lovely.... (and with my favourite mass produced brewery (Adnams) on the doorstep as well)

edit... missread your reply...

However Wales has some of the best beaches in the country as well (more of a North Wales fan myself, though am biased i guess as I am from just outside of Chester - you just need the weather).
 
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Looks like 4 sockets on 2 posts. - only 3kW


Edit then just 2 in the centre.

I think this is old info. I was there at Christmas and there were tons of charge points.
 
I doubt i would be able to buy an electric vehicle with the measly £10k budget i have - I assume the people of this forum will say :)

not that i want to switch to electric anyway yet
 
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