That was prior to the post COVID crazyness and subsequent inflation hikes. Also, I got £3k Government grant off mine, did you too?I see the Polestar 2 leasing prices are finally starting to come back down to more normal levels.
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Still £150 a month more than my launch DM Pilot/Plus mind you.
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Thanks for the advice and I did try that and as the car came from a lease company they said I'd be better off contacting Jaguar as tracing the owner will take longer than via Jaguar resetting it. (presuming the previous owner can be bothered!) So, rang Jaguar and they said as soon as I've got the V5 logbook then I can ring them again and send a copy over and they'll reset it for me.
I spoke to a friend who bought a Mercedes GLC recently and his car won't enable some features either until he has the V5 logbook and can prove ownership for them to reset it! It's a pain but once it's done then I can start messing more. Looking forward to linking Spotify and playing that in the car instead of just the radio!
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I had a look around an Ionic 6 today.
Looked really good from the outside. The busy rear end looks good in the flesh.
However the interior was quite a disappointment. Headroom in the rear seats is very restricted, and it's got an awful looking odd shaped steering wheel that badly blocks your view of the screen behind it. And everything feels quite cheap and plasticy. Definitely didn't feel like the interior of a £50k+ car.
Looked really good from the outside. The busy rear end looks good in the flesh.
However the interior was quite a disappointment. Headroom in the rear seats is very restricted, and it's got an awful looking odd shaped steering wheel that badly blocks your view of the screen behind it. And everything feels quite cheap and plasticy. Definitely didn't feel like the interior of a £50k+ car.
Bluetooth from your phone until then/??
yes I meant we hadn't heard back on how the (24hr?
the hypothesis related to PCP was their adoption means people are hidden from ORP - but that's fine - the bottom line is the depreciation and total running cost of todays 20K+ fiesta,
versus it cheaper forefather, PCP is more honest in exposing that, incorporating deposit of course.
Yes survived, quite nice to drive actually. Completely tricked out with 360 cam for parking, adaptive cruise + lane keep. Back seating is very generous. Boot is tiny.
Dealer has contacted me saying we can have a red one for £175 per month PCH (personal contract hire aka leasing) with no deposit, on a 2 year deal.
If I wasn’t geting a Tesla in June then we probably get one but going full electric is a bit of a push.
Edit: to put this in perspective we went around motor point to look at ICE alternatives that a second hand. A few years old 208 was £15k with a 12.9% PCP £221 per month.
This is absolutely daylight robbery and they or obviously pushing PCP to keep monthly low.
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Until last year new cars were pretty much RRP with no budge on movement. Gone were the days when I got a brand new VW Touareg TDI with a list price of £54k for £38k on the road. They are coming back now, esp on EVs with 20%+ discount available on Taycans RRP.
This is very useful, thank you. We probably won't purchase till the summer so it will be interesting to see if there is any further price movement.
Considered the ionic 5 and the kias but the other half doesn't like them and the VWs would be fairly similar to the Enyaq I guess.
I heard they were opening the supercharger network up a bit but this doesn't concern me massively tbh. Other than trips to see family in Scotland a couple of times a year we will be pretty much exclusively charging at home.
Does your one have parking sensors or is it one of the newer ones where they have removed them? Not sure of having no sensors so I'd be looking to pick up one pre October 22 which is when I think they took them off?
That's true haha yeah I could do that. My old head unit had poor audio quality over Bluetooth but to be fair, that played DVDs and was about 13 years old! I say was, it still works lol.
To add to what's already been said.
With the Model Y, I believe suspension improvements arrived when they removed Ultrasonic sensors and added a parcel shelf, it's still firm but not so crashy.
But as for rivals, the MEB platform (Enyaq/ID.4) is reasonably efficient, and I did like our ID.3, it's downfall, buggy software, lack of updates etc..
I will say that if doing any form of long journey, I can't state enough how much less charger anxiety/planning you have to do.. it's so efficient as well, that as long as you can put up with the suspension/looks, it's hard to not recommend.
My heart likes the Ioniq 5 though, it's a bit less efficient, but it just looks very cool to me and definitely stands out from the crowd..
Yeah my daughter just got accepted for an Ora 3 lease. Sadly we didn't find it quite that cheap, but was still very reasonable £200ish for 8k miles.
She only recently passed with Auto only licence. We did consider a 3 year old Zoe, but this is better value. Most people spend £200 on fuel a month, she will be able to charge at 7.5p kWh, so basically free for 99.9% of her miles.
Insurance was a little high as zero no claims, but the maths just work.
I hear the UI isn't the best and still lacking android auto. But who wouldn't want their kid driving a 5 star NCAP (recent) rated car, literally they rated it the safest small car of 2023.
The Zoe currently has 0 starts due to them removing stuff.
She only recently passed with Auto only licence. We did consider a 3 year old Zoe, but this is better value. Most people spend £200 on fuel a month, she will be able to charge at 7.5p kWh, so basically free for 99.9% of her miles.
Insurance was a little high as zero no claims, but the maths just work.
I hear the UI isn't the best and still lacking android auto. But who wouldn't want their kid driving a 5 star NCAP (recent) rated car, literally they rated it the safest small car of 2023.
The Zoe currently has 0 starts due to them removing stuff.
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Mrs Sk8 vetoed those as well on the grounds that they hit the ugly tree too many times.
The Y is due to get a mini facelift imminently, it’s already live on the Chinese configurator, that may put pressure on prices but it’s not getting the full Model 3 treatment.
Ours is new so it doesn’t have the sensors. My previous model 3 had sensors. In all honesty, the vision system works well in the real world and I wouldn’t be concerned about it now.
It does some things better than USS sensors, like low object detection that wouldn’t be picked up by sensors, it picks up curbs and narrow posts that can fall between sensor blind spots. Where it’s worse is that it can give false positives like changes in surface type get picked up as a curb and it will think a bump stop (say at a charger that you are meant to reverse your wheels on to) is a curb and tell you to stop well before it. A lot of people just focus and whinge about the negatives while ignoring where it’s now actually better.
The thing with vision only cars to look out for is that not all features of enhanced auto pilot have been enabled yet on vision only. I didn’t option it on either car as it just isn’t worth the £3k asking price in any case due to UNCE regulations. If it was £500, I might have pulled the trigger. If you are looking on the used market EAP doesn’t really fetch much of a premium so you may be able to find a car with it for little or no extra money.
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Are other ownership costs - insurance, potential extended warranty cost, similar between VW & Tesla
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If you don’t like the Enyaq then don’t bother looking at ID4/5, the enyaq seems a better car in terms of interior looks and specs.
How about the Ariya or Merc EQA/B? I’ve tried both in the last few days and they are very nice cars.
How about the Ariya or Merc EQA/B? I’ve tried both in the last few days and they are very nice cars.
@FerretBoy brave man putting a newly qualified driver in a brand new vehicle. Hope you've looked up the damage charges on the lease ha
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Ive got a Merc EQB 250 coming for a weeks trial, so my 1st long journey in anything EV will be a trip to Paris.....should be interesting! I had a look on ABRP and it looks like its going to take me an additional hour of charging time, ionity seems to be a good bet for chargers.
Our company has basically said all company car drivers will be in an EV by 2026. We are getting financial sweetners and the EV's are bloomin well priced compared to anything petrol. The Merc isnt a car i'll prob go for, but its got a poor range compared to its competition, so it gives me the worst case on a long journey.
Our company has basically said all company car drivers will be in an EV by 2026. We are getting financial sweetners and the EV's are bloomin well priced compared to anything petrol. The Merc isnt a car i'll prob go for, but its got a poor range compared to its competition, so it gives me the worst case on a long journey.
Are you going via the Tunnel? If so you can charge at both ends while waiting for the train. The Tesla chargers are open to all, there are some other non-Tesla units on the French side too. Not sure if the U.K. side ones are active yet.
I usually top up to 90-100% in the dead time between check in and being called forward to the train. ABRP does t normally take that into account in my experience so any planned stops go immediately out the window.
If you have any charging problems, it will more likely be on the U.K. side. In my experience, a lot of public car parks on the continent also have AC chargers you can use. You’ll probably need an app of some kind to use them. Shell recharge, Octopus Electroverse and ChargePoint are good U.K. based roaming apps with plenty of options on the continent.
The reason why they ar cheap is because they only attract 2% BIK at the moment, ICE cars are considerably higher. It’s not really anything your company is doing there.
It’s worth noting that the 2% BIK won’t last once ICE cars are no longer available to buy at volume.
I usually top up to 90-100% in the dead time between check in and being called forward to the train. ABRP does t normally take that into account in my experience so any planned stops go immediately out the window.
If you have any charging problems, it will more likely be on the U.K. side. In my experience, a lot of public car parks on the continent also have AC chargers you can use. You’ll probably need an app of some kind to use them. Shell recharge, Octopus Electroverse and ChargePoint are good U.K. based roaming apps with plenty of options on the continent.
The reason why they ar cheap is because they only attract 2% BIK at the moment, ICE cars are considerably higher. It’s not really anything your company is doing there.
It’s worth noting that the 2% BIK won’t last once ICE cars are no longer available to buy at volume.
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MY long range and standard ranges are still decent £10k over Enyaq equivalent. That’s RRP or OTR prices.
You probably want to look at what you can get in terms lease and finances. VW offers 1800 deposit contribution and 0% finance. Tesla has some low % Tesla residual in their finance is usually much much lower so you are “borrowing” more in effect.
Seen some decent lease on MY tho