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Doesnt apply, infact when it was brought in for +£40k EVs to be exempt people could retrospectively apply for the previous years as a refund.
 
Demon said:
Slightly confused here..

I have had a few dealers chasing me up on offers they made on an IONIQ5, firstly I'm surprised they are already willing to give me a discount (maybe sales aren't all that!) but on emailing the offers over two of them mention the vehicle will be subject to the 5 year additional VED surcharge of £335pa due to being >£40k.. I've got other offers have that as a listed item but have '£0'.. And checking the gov uk website, it looks like Zero Emission vehicles are subject to the additional VED..

Is this just some dealers being daft and their quote system not knowing Zero Emission vehicles don't qualify or does it actually apply?
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Exempt since April 2020.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...-excise-duty-rates-for-zero-emission-vehicles
 
Ferrari are asking for an exemption to the ban in the EU now, if they get it I suspect other low volume manufacturers will follow. The EU politicians made an excemption for their private jets from jet fuel tax, so I'm sure they can manage this one...
 
SkodaMart said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/03/09/business/electric-cars-japan.amp.html

Japan have admitted they cannot get the EV infrastructure in place.
It will cost too much money, plus only moves the pollution elsewhere.
Your driving a pipe dream folks.

It’s only working because you are the minority.
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I think you read a different argument to the one you linked. The article seems to suggest that the Japanese auto industry is actually heading in the wrong direction and could potentially end up in the same place as it’s consumer electronics industry. The word they used is ‘irrelevant’.

It’s fairly obvious that the Japanese auto industry (which makes up most car sales in Japan) is lobbying the Japanese government hard to continue pushing hybrids which they are world leaders in. The article clearly makes the argument that this is about protecting their investment in hybrid technology and not because full BEV can not be delivered.

They make the argument that electric cars are only as clean as the grid they are connected to, which is true but the grid is getting cleaner daily. The irony is that Japans grid used to be cleaner than most…
 
Yeah exactly and Japan has no way to meet energy demand with renewables now new build nuclear is a no go so will have to import energy.

They can’t meet Paris carbon emissions by importing hydrocarbon energy… doesn’t need to be a rocket scientist to see which model fits their global minority requirement…
 
SkodaMart said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/03/09/business/electric-cars-japan.amp.html

Japan have admitted they cannot get the EV infrastructure in place.
It will cost too much money, plus only moves the pollution elsewhere.
Your driving a pipe dream folks.

It’s only working because you are the minority.
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It's actually says electric only vehicles are less commercial so they won't be able to maximise profits.
And sorting on the ring of fire is hard to knock up a few nuclear plants without nature giving them a bash now and again.
 
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Nasher said:
Ferrari are asking for an exemption to the ban in the EU now, if they get it I suspect other low volume manufacturers will follow. The EU politicians made an excemption for their private jets from jet fuel tax, so I'm sure they can manage this one...
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can't ferrari pool with some other company ...
like ford did with volvo , tesla+chrylser ...

for hybrids and Japan concern, will that be another emissions scandal if we discover their co2 is greater than expected - has anyoneclosed the loop on that yet
 
Jonnycoupe said:
I love that the idea of moving pollution out of places that people work and live is seen as a bad thing. :cry:
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It's not helping the planet though and we just end up with even more pollution concentrated around power stations and the countryside. In the end the pollution just ends up drifting over populated areas anyway.
 
Yeah sorry was talking about the simple view for muggles. Reality wind and solar is becoming more and more of the proportion of UK power and you can’t store it easily (unless you have loads of EVs…) which makes the narrative moot.
 
Petrol/diesel isn’t getting cleaner but electricity generation is! Anyway no amount of logic is going to convert some people, it is what it is
 
Just looking through the netcarshow stuff… very similar to EQS so not sure. Interesting to see what power the 4matic gets and prices of course. 90kWh usable is lots :cool:
 
Bear said:
Good for 660km apparently which makes it a viable option for me as I don’t have the option of home charging. 300odd real world miles, I think I can make that work
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Do you have regular chargin access at work? I know one person who has an EV and he has coped fine but does rely on public as well.
 
ICDP said:
Do you have regular chargin access at work? I know one person who has an EV and he has coped fine but does rely on public as well.
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There are chargers at the works car park but I pretty much work from home permanently now. I do have quite a few 7kw and one 50kw public charger around me so I’m quite confident I can make it work without too much hassle if I do decide to go EV, that’s if they are working that is
 
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