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Thats my view as well, I honest see it as the equivalent to plug sockets in a house, they will literally be everywhere
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Thats my view as well, I honest see it as the equivalent to plug sockets in a house, they will literally be everywhere
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Ouch thats some burn your dishing out
Rather mediocre actually
I've seen better retorts from Donald Trump.
I have a 1.2kW lithium battery for my camper. For storing the instructions it says to leave it at least half full and it will last for at least a year before it gets low enough that I need to recharge.
Phantom drain can be an issue yes (specifically Tesla), but otherwise it’s just the same risk as with an ICE. The (usually) lead acid “starter” battery may go flat due to the alarm etc, but that’s it.
But a Tesla model X starts at £86000...That's why you'd use a Model X which can tow 2250KG which is far more equivalent of the stuff the horsey crowd usually drive
The starting point for chargers should be one per car. It wouldn’t be exactly that but most people with somewhere off road they can store their vehicle will have a charger for every car they have. Then you’ll be wanting a load of additional chargers elsewhere (supermarkets etc). Not an u realistic proposition if they include a lot of existing “charging” infrastructure like normal external plugs in homes.
Also that TaaS is way to optimistic. Yes it’ll be a disruption, but they’re making the standard mistake of comparing future cars with today to argue that change.
It’s not a discussion of whether you buy a non autonomous ICE car vs use an autonomous BEV taxi. It’s a question of whether you buy an autonomous BEV or use an autonomous BEV taxi.
The only way their numbers may work is if electric cars don’t go down in price, or autonomous hardware is too expensive for the average vehicle buyer (or requires too much maintenance).
It’ll also cause issues with road traffic too. The minimum needed if it takes off in a big way will be greater than the number of cars in rush hour, and it would make rush hour even worse as vehicles would be making more trips (going to pick up the second person to take them in, not just parked at work).
mad i mentioned before though, it’s going to be a big industry and manufacturers that can jump in first will definitely benefit, hence why so many are going after autonomous hardware in a big way.
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Rather mediocre actually
I've seen better retorts from Donald Trump.
well if you want someone to inspire the behaviours you exhibit there’s no trumping that guy. #fakenews
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Big benefit for large amount of chargers is the two way aspect they offerfor grid balancing with v2G or even v2x. Where renewables have sufficient capacity to store electricity during peak generation. It’s no real suprise Scotland will want to capitalise on their natural resource by thinking of the long term game.
Those numbers are weird.
2050 is 11,027 days away. At 4,000 chargers per day, that's 44.1M chargers, not 25M. Even knocking weekends and bank holidays off, we're still installing 30M chargers rather than 25M.
Still, those numbers aren't necessarily crazy. The vast majority of those installs would likely be home chargers. It took a couple of hours for a sparky to install mine. He could probably do three per day. So we'd need a peak of maybe 2,000 electricians across the country installing home chargers (assuming it takes time to hit scale). Assuming it takes time to hit scale, and only 5M are installed by 2030, 2,000 installers would be able to do the remaining 20M by 2044 (factoring in weekends and statutory holiday).
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We're supposed to be going greener but that is going to require a number of extra power stations
not if they function as peak grid power buffers....
Finally finished my Ioniq order today. Estimated delivery 12/12. Can't wait! Finally got an EV with decent range.
It doesn't. Still fun four years on.
Today. Just bought an i3. Can’t imagine flooring it everywhere for the lulz will ever get old
If a small i3 60Ah is impressive, I can’t even begin to comprehend what a top-spec Tesla must feel like
It doesn't. Still fun four years on.
Today. Just bought an i3. Can’t imagine flooring it everywhere for the lulz will ever get old
If a small i3 60Ah is impressive, I can’t even begin to comprehend what a top-spec Tesla must feel like
I just traded in my i3 60 ah for a Tesla SR+ and yeah there a big difference in performance and handling but I still love the design and manoeuvrability of the i3. Plus it has a much more intelligent charging scheduler that adjusts to ambient conditions.
Only downer was the tyre wear from the instant torque so check you rears to get an idea how fast they are wearing. Best accessory I bought was the official BMW environment cover. Covers the windscreen and side windows so helps to keep it cool in simmer and defrosted in winter.
I've used it on my Tesla to keep cabin temps to below 40 DegC but it doesn't quite fit well enough so I'm looking for a similar cover not the usual windscreen inserts.
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That's why you'd use a Model X which can tow 2250KG which is far more equivalent of the stuff the horsey crowd usually drive
Yeah it works but the tests in the US I've watched show up to a 2/3 loss of range due to how little energy an EV actually manages to work with! Minimum speeds on US highways also didn't help plus they were towing worst case trailers.
Having watched Bjorn on YT they appear to use small trailers a lot more in Scandinavian countries where lots of Tesla are being sold.
is this cured with more elaborate tractions systems ..I thought some ev's now, very accurately, monitor the current/energy going into the motor which is more accurate than the traditional, monitoring differential wheel speed, but I suppose the undriven wheels have to use the traditional system;
(... with a tesla can you break traction easily on bends ..also, not sure how they have dealt with tcr on e-series formula, illegal on F1 )
edit: LOL tcr on forumla e is controversial https://e-racing365.com/formula-e/fia-acts-to-end-traction-control-exploitation/
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My impression is that EVs tend to have better control on the traction control via electronics and less mass in moving components to control. The i3 can be quite brutal when accelerating out of a damp corner for example enough to jerk the safety belt. I used see the traction light flicker quite often and not always in conditions I would have expected.
Regen is possibly concentrating wear on one axle adding additional tyre wear though compared to normal braking maybe maybe not you'd have to compare the amount of time and force applied.
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Of the ones I’ve seen (TFL etc) they aren’t worst case trailers, they’re normal for their type and you see them regularly around here. I know there was a lot of upset in the Tesla community with TFL, but the trailer they used was a trailer they use regularly in their testing of other cars, and it’s the smallest one they seem to use.
Short range towing is a reasonable strength of EVs (although not as big a benefit as some claim when compared with similar powered ICE vehicles), but due to the limitations of energy they can carry longer range towing is going to be an Achilles heel for a while to come - until bigger batteries are commonly available to offset the range reduction.
Tesla may well end up being one of the worst in range loss in the end due to their philosophy of sacrificing as much as possible for aerodynamics. Stick a roof rack or trailer behind and it destroys the gains they have.
For a European view Bjorn is a better bet. He did some testing a couple of years ago with a dozen trailers - and found the same thing. Even with a small trailer you’re losing a third of your range, with a caravan you’re losing 2/3rds.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/insidee...ption-when-towing-various-trailers-video/amp/
This is one of the reasons I think there will be a requirement for 600 mile BEVs -especially in colder climates where towing a trailer could leave your 600 mile BEV with just 200 miles of range.
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While I don’t disagree towing causes a huge increase in consumption the link you provided doesn’t back up the 2/3 assertion at all, the link says it’s 50%.
You need to remember those numbers will be using the old Model X and not the new ‘raven’ version with more range.
Does anyone know how big a problem is actually is? Are there any stats on the number of people that actually tow regularly?
I don’t mean people who tow a caravan twice a year, I mean those that do it regularly e.g more than once a month tow a significant distance say over 75 miles.
You need to remember those numbers will be using the old Model X and not the new ‘raven’ version with more range.
Does anyone know how big a problem is actually is? Are there any stats on the number of people that actually tow regularly?
I don’t mean people who tow a caravan twice a year, I mean those that do it regularly e.g more than once a month tow a significant distance say over 75 miles.