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They are getting to almost sensible values

MY21 IPace HSE for ~£40k with the £3.8k deposit contribution, 2 years servicing and warranty doesn't seem too bad

Would still prefer an e-tron 55 personally :p
 
after discourse on long id 4/vw delivery times - looks like ipace has the advantage 23/2/23
The longest delivery time is currently the Volvo V60 Cross Country with 22 months, followed by the Audi Q4 e-tron electric car (20 months), Porsche 911 Carrera (combustion engine/19), Skoda Enyaq iV (electric car/18) and the Kia Sorento (Combustion & Plug-in Hybrid/16). The popular VW Touran (combustion engine) is only in front of the door after up to 14 months.

But there are also new cars with very short delivery times: the electric car Elaris Beo and the Mercedes E-Class Coupé (combustion engine) are available the fastest at three months. The combustion engine Ford S-Max and the electric cars Jaguar I-Pace, Peugeot e-Rifter and Tesla Model 3 have a delivery time of four months.
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chanjy said:
They are getting to almost sensible values

MY21 IPace HSE for ~£40k with the £3.8k deposit contribution, 2 years servicing and warranty doesn't seem too bad

Would still prefer an e-tron 55 personally :p
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E-tron is an ugly spud of a car and is much more expensive for a worse spec so no thanks happy with Jaguar as this will be my 5th. The iPace in HSE spec and with the options on it at essentially 40k is hard to pass up to be honest, its less than my current petrol and has a huge spec in comparison.
 
J1nxy said:
E-tron is an ugly spud of a car and is much more expensive for a worse spec so no thanks happy with Jaguar as this will be my 5th. The iPace in HSE spec and with the options on it at essentially 40k is hard to pass up to be honest, its less than my current petrol and has a huge spec in comparison.
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That's why we have options, everyone likes something different :D
 
Django x2 said:
Getting closer to delivery of my anticlimax 3000 GT. Is there a "best most epic charger 2023" that I should be looking at?
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I wouldn't bother wasting over a grand having a specialised charger installed, when you can get an "outdoor socket" that'll do 7.2kW for about £45 on screwfix (plus circuit breaker, cable and install.)

These were quotes for a Zappi. I went with screwfix and a self install :D
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Fuzz said:
I wouldn't bother wasting over a grand having a specialised charger installed, when you can get an "outdoor socket" that'll do 7.2kW for about £45 on screwfix (plus circuit breaker, cable and install.)

These were quotes for a Zappi. I went with screwfix and a self install :D
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Useful to know. I don't need to pay for this though, so something that doesn't look like Bob's electric apprentice has used an old shoebox filled with expanding foam and a cable with a fuse attached to it.
 
I think is a BMW i4 anyway…

Gotta love the commando camping look that still needs a cable and doesn’t meet 19th edition wiring earthing requirements.
 
Fuzz said:
I wouldn't bother wasting over a grand having a specialised charger installed, when you can get an "outdoor socket" that'll do 7.2kW for about £45 on screwfix (plus circuit breaker, cable and install.)

These were quotes for a Zappi. I went with screwfix and a self install :D
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And herein lies the current problem in the charge point sector; the government have legislated and regulated, driving up the price of chargers until a typical install is (from most providers) over a grand. Inevitably this then leads to people looking for cheaper (and less safe) alternatives :rolleyes:

I've been reading up on the Viridian wallbox kits today. Quite tempted given it's only £299 for the complete kit. Probably £400-£500 all-in for a sparky to fit it (to current electrical safety regs). But I would want a way to disconnect it easily (rented house - I would want to take any wallbox with me).
 
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McPhee said:
And herein lies the current problem in the charge point sector; the government have legislated and regulated, driving up the price of chargers until a typical install is (from most providers) over a grand. Inevitably this then leads to people looking for cheaper (and less safe) alternatives :rolleyes:

I've been reading up on the Viridian wallbox kits today. Quite tempted given it's only £299 for the complete kit. Probably £400-£500 all-in for a sparky to fit it (to current electrical safety regs). But I would want a way to disconnect it easily (rented house - I would want to take any wallbox with me).
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I also had an electrician price up just install costs with me supplying all parts.

client supplies from Consumer unit on a 32a RCBO with a rotary isolator internal
for safe isola on
*test & inspect new circuit upon comple on & provide a test cer ficate
Labour & materials 450.00
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I also had an electrician price up just install costs with me supplying all parts.
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Sparks aren't thick. It's basic economics. Lad buys 85k Audi ETron on tick (salary sacrifice) with no deposit, no tax, no insurance and the sparky sees $$$.

A local dodgy sparks will do me a consumer unit for 510 and 180 for car charger. The more commercially astute lads are 650 for a consumer unit and 500 for a car charger.
 
dLockers said:
Sparks aren't thick. It's basic economics. Lad buys 85k Audi ETron on tick (salary sacrifice) with no deposit, no tax, no insurance and the sparky sees $$$.

A local dodgy sparks will do me a consumer unit for 510 and 180 for car charger. The more commercially astute lads are 650 for a consumer unit and 500 for a car charger.
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I never mentioned "car charger" I just asked for connection to IP67 rated isolated outdoor socket.
He didn't even see the car as it was done by email and decent pictures of consumer unit / cupboard / proposed location etc.
 
So the labour justifies the idea that you may as-well get a proper EVSE rather than an industrial plug?

Buys, on tick and salary sacrifice in the same sentence? My head just e troned :cry:
 
That was the point that @Jonnycoupe was making, a commando socket on its own doesn't meet the regs for car charging. Sure it will charge a car but that doesn't mean its compliant.

By the time you have paid for an interlocking commando socket, an earth rod or PEN fault detection device a type B RCD/RCBO and the a 32A capable EVSE, you've spent almost as much just getting a proper EVSE with full solar divert functionality fitted, even less if you don't solar.
 
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I never mentioned "car charger" I just asked for connection to IP67 rated isolated outdoor socket.
He didn't even see the car as it was done by email and decent pictures of consumer unit / cupboard / proposed location etc.
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450 just for an outdoor plug? You're getting mugged more than I am lol.

Jonnycoupe said:
So the labour justifies the idea that you may as-well get a proper EVSE rather than an industrial plug?

Buys, on tick and salary sacrifice in the same sentence? My head just e troned :cry:
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Lots of words here, not sure what the Q or point is? But yeah 450 to wire an outdoor plug you may as well get a PodPoint 3 from eBay and do it properly.
 
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