I am not going electric anytime soon as I can’t charge at home and they are bloody expensive to begin with. But even I have driven an EV, had a Smart Forfour electric as a loan car when my Smart ICE went in for a service during lockdown and it was a pleasure to drive.You have over a 1000 posts in a thread titled 'when are you going electric' and you've never even driven an EV?
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He lives in a world where experience for him is based on what he has read or what he can GoogleYou have over a 1000 posts in a thread titled 'when are you going electric' and you've never even driven an EV?
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Why bother though? Save money and get a diesel Fiesta or something and pocket the change for fuel whilst having a car that has none of the negatives.
Cheapest (non cat) diesel Fiesta with comparable age and mileage on Autotrader is £9.7k, you'll have to forgive me if my calculations are wrong, but that's more than £8.5k isn't it
Also, you say "none of the negatives" - surely the only negative is the inconvenience of charging? The Zoe wins on every other count.
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this is one reason. Whether is is compelling or not depends on the person i guess.... but it IS a possible reason to bother for some.
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for me tho i would choose the Zoe for cheaper running costs, a better drive and a more reliable car.
that said...........there is nothing wrong with buying 2nd hand ICE cars at all imo..... Those cars are made now so they may as well get used for their useful life.
buying a brand new pure ICE tho, whilst there are reasons for some doing it, for most people who have off road parking i think almost all of those people who buy a new ICE now esp diesel are bonkers!.
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My son is 12 and has told me he wants a MG Cyberster for his first car
My son is 12 and has told me he wants a MG Cyberster for his first car
Be a good dad and teach him better
you could get him driving a nice little manual now at the under17 car club, nice little father son/daughter activity, then go racing together at your local car club at 14 doing a public service by burning up all that fuel to aid the transition for everyone to electric whilst having fun in the process 
Pretty sure I am in the majority - as a private purchaser I'll wait until it's economic/attractive to get one - few friends&neighbours have them,
e: afterthought haven't driven an suv either , have driven a transit though
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He probably drove it through a flood rather than it raining. Go fast enough and the water pressure will get through any seals. No doubt he thought it was waterproof
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hmmmmm i am not saying he is definitely lying about how he managed to flood his car, but i have seen teslas go through some water i would not even contemplate going through in an ICE unless it was in a defender with a proper off road deep water exhaust or similar........... i cant help but wonder if he did something daft to knacker his car.
if not and it was just heavy rain then that is terrible but given the number of cars on the road and this has been an issue just once.......... i cant help but smell a rat.
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other than damaged number plates they seem to handle water well.. compare that to rufford ford flood compilations of other cars......... not so much
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And? He didn't drive it through Rufford Ford, which Teslas have done with the bonnet covered with water:
But in case you forgot we've just had severe bad weather and ICE cars hereabouts handled it just fine.
Or a manufacturing defect. Mistakes and failures happen and it's how they're handled that truly tells. There are umpteen videos on YouTube of Teslas driving through floods without issues. But Tesla or their dealer were quick to blame the driver. This does not compute.
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true enough , a defect actually didnt occur to me. IF the owner is not trying it on and they know it was just rain water, for the costs being talked about i would actually get the car independently inspected and then take it further if a fault was found.
either way tho, its an incredibly rare issue and not imo a reason to shy off getting an EV..... just like if i bought an ICE car and the engine seized i would not swerve off all ice cars
they are shysters the lot of them.
i know you have had bad weather, a friend of a friend got stranded up there as the train station flooded they were meant to leave from.
however that is exactly why i suspect the owner of the tesla could easily have taken it through a flood which was too much for the car (any car).
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There is something missing from that story, it just doesn't smell right... particularly as it emerged after there was all the flooding in Scotland.
The issue is Tesla can't really defend themselves either (not that they would anyway because they rarely make public comments about anything for better or worse) because the customer interaction will be covered by GDPR.
It's not the first time I've seen people complain about damage to their tesla after 'driving through a puddle' but its usually bumpers and under trays getting ripped off. It later turned out they drove through 2ft+ of standing water at speed.
I appreciate both the reason the story is slightly different here but like I said, it doesn't smell right and the response from Tesla is not completely outlandish in first instance. We all know that any 'journalist' which literally latch on to any sniff of a negative story relating to electric cars at the moment without doing any due diligence because it generates significant clicks at the moment.
For all we know they could have conceded and fixed it before the piece was published but we will never know the real answer...
The issue is Tesla can't really defend themselves either (not that they would anyway because they rarely make public comments about anything for better or worse) because the customer interaction will be covered by GDPR.
It's not the first time I've seen people complain about damage to their tesla after 'driving through a puddle' but its usually bumpers and under trays getting ripped off. It later turned out they drove through 2ft+ of standing water at speed.
I appreciate both the reason the story is slightly different here but like I said, it doesn't smell right and the response from Tesla is not completely outlandish in first instance. We all know that any 'journalist' which literally latch on to any sniff of a negative story relating to electric cars at the moment without doing any due diligence because it generates significant clicks at the moment.
For all we know they could have conceded and fixed it before the piece was published but we will never know the real answer...
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Cars with electronic door releases usually also have manual releases on the front doors. Tesla is included in that. The first time pretty much everyone sits in a 3 or Y pulls it because they think its the door release rather than hitting the door release button.
I'm not sure its appropriate to use the death of a person in Scotland to try and score some anti Tesla internet points, particularly when Tesla isn't mentioned in the coverage at all, have you started working for The Sun?
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Evening, I was meant to be test driving an I-Pace tomorrow, but just found out that my current insurer won’t insure it. And the comparison sites are putting out some high numbers. 3x what I currently pay for an Alfa Giulietta.
Are there any insurers that specialise in electric vehicles?
Are there any insurers that specialise in electric vehicles?
No. I think part of the problem with the I-Pace and JLR in general is the poor stock situation impacting any repairs. Insurance companies don’t like having to potentially foot the bill for literally months of hire cars while waiting for JLR to fix even minor faults.
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Though it seems considerably higher premiums is not just a JLR, or EV thing.
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Though it seems considerably higher premiums is not just a JLR, or EV thing.
Massive Car insurance costs?
Just seeing if I'm going mad here. Been driving 2 years, no points. 32 years old. Last year's insurance was £610 on Hastings Premier. Just looking at quotes and the same plan on compare the market is £864? what on earth is going on??? Can't get it below 850 no matter what I do or where I look...
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