**EVO: Tyre Test 2007**

HI there

Is this the issue where the new M3 is reviewed and compared against other M cars? If so is it a good read?
 
I've got the new F1s on my car and at present with about 500miles on them the one major downside is grip from a standing start and in 1st. On the old Conti Sport Contact 2s I could nail it in 1st and they gripped with no traction loss. The new F1s have a fight with traction control in 1st and when hitting 2nd flat out.

In the corners they are superb on a long sweeping bend I had the back inside wheel clean off the road as the front end was gripping so well, the old tyres when at there best would have started to understeer about 5-10mph before this. The sidewalls on the F1s are stiffer aswell not only did the tyre fitter comment on this but the steering is sharper.

I do hope with more miles on them the grip will improve in 1st/pulling away.
 
I have 18 inch Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 on my Audi and am glad to see them do so well in the dry performance tests, not cheap at £153.50 a corner but I think good tyres are worth paying for.
 
TONY said:
I have 18 inch Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 on my Audi and am glad to see them do so well in the dry performance tests, not cheap at £153.50 a corner but I think good tyres are worth paying for.
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How can you pleased with the outcome? They are shown up by cheaper tyres and only do well in the dry performance and lets face it, if you are ever going to approach the limits of your tyre you may find it being when you least expect it in the wet.

For the money they command the result from PS2 was shocking.
 
[TW]Fox;10091942 said:
How can you pleased with the outcome? They are shown up by cheaper tyres and only do well in the dry performance and lets face it, if you are ever going to approach the limits of your tyre you may find it being when you least expect it in the wet.

For the money they command the result from PS2 was shocking.
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i think its a matter of trying to justify his purchase to himself
 
[TW]Fox;10091942 said:
How can you pleased with the outcome? They are shown up by cheaper tyres and only do well in the dry performance and lets face it, if you are ever going to approach the limits of your tyre you may find it being when you least expect it in the wet.

For the money they command the result from PS2 was shocking.
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One thing Evo appear to have not taken into account is the tyre wear, on my old car the standard fit Michelins PSs lasted 23k on the front and the F1s about 13-14k. So per mile the Michelins were cheaper however I would have rated the GSD3s slightly above them performance wise. I can't compare the F1 Assymmetrics to the GSD3s as I now have a different car however I don't expect to see a lot of miles out of them as they are likely a soft compound, Michelins generally have a harder longer lasting compound.
 
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I put GS3D's on my wifes Golf GTi before she sold it, and they were as the F1's had always been in my experience, a great tyre in the wet and head and shoulders ahead of the Bridgestone's the car came with. However, they lasted about 5,000 miles on the front, where the Bridgestones lasted about 10,000, which I thought was shocking.
 
I know it can't really do much in a one off test, but did they compare wear rates of the tyres at all? F1s have always been great but wear rate is middling (it's not Parada bad, but it's not great), but the Michelins I use whilst not topping the tests still give me all the performance I'd ever need and last ages.
 
Mad old tory said:
Would there be any advantage gained from testing tires on more than one car? Surely one tyre may work better on one car than another?
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Finally someone actually raises a very valid point. Just because one tyre performed well on a specific car does not mean that it would on other cars. Its obvious F1s are generally very good on most cars across the range but certainly things like TC and other electronics are fine tuned to the make of tyre the car came with.
 
Didn't they perform all the tests with all electronic driver aids turned off? I'm pretty sure they do. Yes, different tyres suit different cars but not so much as would seriously skew the results.
 
I've got a new set of Eagle F1s on the front, are they all the same or are there different versions?
 
Duke said:
I've got a new set of Eagle F1s on the front, are they all the same or are there different versions?
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There are different versions.

Eagle F1 GS-D2 - the original versions, later only available for small cars.
Eagle F1 GS-D3 - the outgoing version
Eagle F1 Assymetric - the new version, as tested in this months Evo.
 
Matt82 said:
i think its a matter of trying to justify his purchase to himself
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I for one don't drive like a maniac in the wet and tend to only put my foot down in ideal conditions so how they perform in the wet is not so important as long as they are good enough for normal wet driving.

I also got these tyres for free so I would say they were exellent value.
 
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