Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

Exit poll: Who did you vote for?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 302 27.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 577 52.6%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 104 9.5%

  • Green

    Votes: 13 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 19 1.7%

  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 30 2.7%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 6 0.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 46 4.2%
  • Total voters
    1,097
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Robbo said:
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So much for "a period of needed strength and stability".

Anyone know how that works? Suggestions I've read say that May gets first dibs on forming coalition (step forward leaderless Libdems) or she resigns and Corbyn gets a go.

If she resigns today, do the Conservatives get to appoint a new leader who then gets a go at leading a coalition days after not being on the ballot paper?
 
garnett said:
So much for "a period of needed strength and stability".

Anyone know how that works? Suggestions I've read say that May gets first dibs on forming coalition (step forward leaderless Libdems) or she resigns and Corbyn gets a go.

If she resigns today, do the Conservatives get to appoint a new leader who them gets to attempt a coalition days after not being on the ballot paper?
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yes and none of them where on your ballot paper, you should vote for your local MP, obviously with Party whip it doesn't work like this. One of the many broken issues with our way of democracy.
 
Gigabit said:
If she gets 316, she can do a coalition with the DUP.

If she gets less, she's a little bit screwed.
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but tehy are calling for soft brexit in return and that still only gives them 2 predicted seat majority which still makes passing anything they want extremely hard and likely would still rely on votes from other parties.
 
Glaucus said:
yes and none of them where on your ballot paper, you should vote for your local MP, obviously with Party whip it doesn't work like this. One of the many broken issues with our way of democracy.
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You know what I mean. The Conservatives (whose campaign was pretty much, "Don't make Corbyn PM") look likely to appoint a PM of their choosing.

I get that we don't/shouldn't vote for party leaders, but the ridiculousness is exacerbated given that it's potentially going to happen hours after an election.
 
woppy101 said:
This is going to go down as one of the biggest underestimation and disasters in British political history! No need to do it and she was very badly advised. One good thing comes from it though hopefully we will hear a lot less of that idiot sturgeon
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This is one misconception. There WAS a need to do this. Not a vital need, but there was a reason. That reason was that she needed a larger majority and mandate to diminish the power of the hard-brexit faction in her own party and to be able to negotiate brexit on the basis that she actually has support for whatever she negotiates. And then there are the slightly more conspiratorial ones such as the twenty four Conservative MPs who might have been charged for electoral irregularities. But mainly the former. You have to remember that the available evidence suggested an easy win for the Tories and that the current leader of the opposition was someone that all the media barons would be enthusiastic about crushing as much as possible. If this election had not been called, we'd never know that it would be a huge loss for the Tories. The prevailing wisdom would be that it would have been a very likely gain. We'd likely all be currently saying she didn't have a mandate and she'd be unduly influenced by hard brexit cabals within her own party.

Sure - this has been a big mistake on May's part. But there wasn't no reason to do it.
 
Amp34 said:
Why is he doing it now? He realised it was a poisoned chalice last time round, so why change your mind when it's still going to be one, and has arguably claimed it's first casualty.
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I don't think he realised that, something else was going on.
 
h4rm0ny said:
This is one misconception. There WAS a need to do this. Not a vital need, but there was a reason. That reason was that she needed a larger majority and mandate to diminish the power of the hard-brexit faction in her own party
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I agree. Much as I dislike May, her decision was right. The campaign was wrong.

If she'd not done it, she'd have faced the criticism Brown got.

Isn't it utterly ridiculous that our system and political parties are such, that she was campaigning on a "Hard Brexit" platform so that she could ignore the extremists and negotiate something softer?

If that doesn't show why the system needs reform I don't know what does.
 
Bloody hell - talk of sealing the count building in Glenrothes and having a 4th recount in a few hours once everyone has had some sleep! :eek:

Jonathan Watson

Yip. Lib Dems had it by three, then two, and now SNP have it by two. Who knows what it will be after this recount!
 
Robbo said:
I don't think he realised that, something else was going on.
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Like?

I got the impression he was playing politics, hedging his bets, much like he appeared to be hedging his bets on whether to choose leave or remain. Perhaps he was told he probably wouldn't win last time?
 
Robbo said:
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I think that would be a mistake. Brexit negotiations are imminent. Do they really want a leadership contest on its eve? And if there's no contest, then simply crowning Davis or Johnson is merely a sop to the public trying to swap out the damaged image of May. But without there being an election imminent, who cares?
 
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