Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July
- Thread starter JohnnyG
- Start date
- Status
but as that quote suggests, they are not looking at the future, and in fact everyone seems to have missed the real reason why UBI is becoming increasing popular. We are going to lose huge amounts of jobs in the near to mid term future and these will not be replaced like in past centuries, automation is outpacing creation of new jobs and at an increasing rate. Jut look at two technologies Tesla is working on, self driving vehicles which is a huge number of jobs, automated factories for complex items, far above what is currently possible. They are working to produce a factory that assembles cars fully autonomous at a speed that no human can be in the production line at all. Both of these are not to far in the future let alone other stuff being worked on around the world, we do not even need AI for this to happen, machine learning is more than adequate to surpass us.
When this happens we are going to have a large percentage of unemployed and unless tax is changed mega corporations are going to get exponentially more profit.
So the idea is to introduce UBI whilst increasing corporation tax, remember even under full autonomy of machines vast wealth is still being created. It probably is to early, however, when autonomy does happen, it's going to happen fast and we need to have the system planned and probably already introduced at a much lower level. Or we are going to feel the economic pinch until we do implement it.
Soldato
Won't stem from it, but might have missed being reduced by it.
I know I was a proper **** about social issues before having kids. Even voted Tory a few times.
One of the main things that changed me, besides having someone beyond myself to worry about, was seeing the poorer kids at pre-school with my eldest and seeing how far behind they already were. You start to realise how much your good fortune really is just that - fortune. You get lumped with the wrong parents and your life chances and choices are greatly diminished. Changes your (or 'my' at least) outlook a bit.
Is... is this a joke? Surely everyone on an overclocking forum knows that bricked means in the context of electronic devices?
But has an entirely different meaning on council estates in my experience.
Caporegime
Soldato
So, is the UK Anakin Skywalker then? We know how well he turned out listening Sidious and Obi-Wan. I wonder what Maybot/Sidious' Order 66 will be?
Well yeah it is pretty clear she went for a compromise with the private/albeit photographed meeting with the emergency services... as you've highlighted she'd have been criticised if she'd not gone and if she had met with angry residents as a member of the government rather than the opposition then she'd be a figure to blame and have lots of rants at. Though I do think she is a bit out of touch in general and perhaps isn't very good at talking to people.
Yes you can. Even if she thought that she was going to get an earful, she should have stood there and listened. She is the PM for goodness sake.
She is severly hurting herself with all this. First she doesnt even want to debate other party leaders for a general election that SHE called, and now she won't even talk to the victims (her own citizens) of a horrible national tragedy.
Soldato
They mentioned it was for "security reasons" didn't they?
I imagine the Queen and Prince William's security is far stricter than May's!
I imagine the Queen and Prince William's security is far stricter than May's!
Based on what specifically?
I imagine she hates corbyn for what his 'friends' did to her family.
The fact that they have to meet on occasion and that the Queen is leagues more available to the common pleb. May constantly seems to just want to avoid people at all costs, which isn't unusual... just not very good for a Prime Minister.
She hates May because she has to meet on occasion? Like every other pm during her reign?
Just admit that you were disappointed some upset relative didn't get the opportunity to take a pop at the pm.
She is going to the hospital later to visit the actual victims not the rent-a-mob on the street.
Queen was also heckled...
People have been heckling the Queen. When you go into these highly emotionally charged environments it's bound to happen - victims need a target for their grief, they certainly won't target it at Saint Jeremy who goes down and give them a cuddle and says we should steal property for them.
It's all so sick on all sides.
It's all so sick on all sides.
Caporegime
When Sadiq Khan turned up, one of them had a go at him for not supporting Jeremy Corbyn in the election. Sorry but that makes me suspect that some people outside Grenfell Tower might not be there purely out of concern for the victims and their families, and that's coming from someone who really doesn't like Khan.
- Status