Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

Exit poll: Who did you vote for?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 302 27.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 577 52.6%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 104 9.5%

  • Green

    Votes: 13 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 19 1.7%

  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 30 2.7%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 6 0.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 46 4.2%
  • Total voters
    1,097
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Scrutinize said:
I'm glad the rest of you guys have picked up on what I was saying about the DUP from the early hours once they were in the running.

The media and public will completely destroy the conservatives if it happens, not to mention massive unrest in NI
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Welcome to the definition of strong and stable in 2017
 
Lucifurr said:
I think in the 2015 election if PR had been used, UKIP would have had something like 28 seats. I know this time they wouldn't but the benefits aren't always positive for PR.
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I disagree. As outsiders they were able to continue to pump out their facile bigot-appeasement without the scrutiny poured on MPs.

Their incompetence and the intellectual bankruptcy of their ideas would have been far more apparent.

Given a council, its collapse would have served as due warning of their ineptitude.

And when our nation's least empathetic, most self-centred and intolerant bigots clamoured that they weren't being empathised with or having their intolerance indulged - that they "don't have a voice" - it would have sounded even more ridiculous.
 
PlacidCasual said:
I often think it would be nice to have open primaries so at least you can choose the candidate in the safe seat and it becomes easier to unseat a poor MP in a safe seat. But it does have its downsides you can get quite ugly grassroots organisations changing the face of a party very quickly. It's not the change I dislike but the change associated with the speed.
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I would like to see voting the same as it is now, just with PR. So the ones with the biggest leads get slotted in, everyone would still essentially be represented, there might be a couple that don't fit well, but most would. Need other reform as well, should ban them ignoring reports by experts. and something needs to happen about the party whip.
It needs an entire well thought out remodel.
 
Glaucus said:
I still think TM and tories will try and carry on as normall and in a few months realise its untenable and call another election.
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Yeah, I sort of get the impression that TM is just going to put her fingers in her ears, go direct to the palace and try to solider on through it, some people might argue that Corbyn did the same when he lost the vote of no confidence, but in my eyes the GE result vindicates that - and puts him in a much stronger position, especially now as the Tories might have to rely on an embarrassing bunch of rednecks like the DUP, a later GE might see a Labour majority.
 
So, Survation poll turns out to be the closest again, with the Tories and Labour both being within 1% of their prediction.
 
Stretch said:
In part because the alternative AV voting system which was proposed wasn't what people wanted either.
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The choice was use AV or keep FPTP, the electorate chose to keep FPTP therefore we keep FPTP. There was never going to be a vote on PR unless we voted for change.
 
scorza said:
Doesn't matter - people voted to keep FPTP. If you wanted change you should have voted for it :)
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What? That's like saying we wanted a burger, instead of the **** sandwich we've got now, but because you turned down eating rocks instead we're sticking with **** sandwiches.
 
Adrianr said:
What? That's like saying we wanted a burger, instead of the **** sandwich we've got now, but because you turned down eating rocks instead we're sticking with **** sandwiches.
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Politics isn't like ordering food from a menu. It isn't logical, it doesn't always make sense, it's just about winning and FPTP won.
 
How would PR work for us though? We're constituency based. PR would surely mean that there would be no relation between constituency and representative?
 
Rosbif said:
How would PR work for us though? We're constituency based. PR would surely mean that there would be no relation between constituency and representative?
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not at all, you can still have it for the vast majority of people, you slot people in with the highest lead. You might end up where the second place which is narrowly behind ends up in that constitution, but its still far more representative and you still keep local mps.
 
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