Changing the points systems from 10, 8 to 12, 9 is radical
Points for other things like fastest laps and pole positions, limiting costs by setting fixed prices for engines, etc. They may not be 'radical', but at least they arent stupid.
F1 2009 Season discussion/development thread
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Points for other things like fastest laps and pole positions, limiting costs by setting fixed prices for engines, etc. They may not be 'radical', but at least they arent stupid.
Yup I agree - those seem worthwhile changes.
Changing the points system by 1 point however doesn't.
You really need to watch the season before judging if the points system is ****. The season coming up could be one of the best you've ever seen, you never know. Like Brundle says it doesnt really affect anything as the drivers will know the deal before starting the weekend.
Obviously in theory there could be one driver with a certain amount of wins and loads of 2nds and still not win the title but that would be his fault would'nt it??
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With regard to a revised points system, I personally feel that 14,10,7,5,4,3,2,1 would have been a better proposal for FOTA to make. There is greater incentive (in terms of points difference) between settling for 3rd over trying for 2nd and then again 2nd to 1st.
The FOTA proposal would only have given the driver in 1st a one point advantage (by comparision to the old system (12v9 against 10v8)) over the driver in second place which in my opinion wouldn't make a difference.
The medals idea is completely flawed as far as I see it.
The FOTA proposal would only have given the driver in 1st a one point advantage (by comparision to the old system (12v9 against 10v8)) over the driver in second place which in my opinion wouldn't make a difference.
The medals idea is completely flawed as far as I see it.
Its not tho is it? Brundle hits the nail on the head tbh.
OK, its not completely flawed... but my points system is still the better idea.
The medals system just goes against pretty much every other scoring system in the world of motorsport, including the other series regulated by the FIA.
Because for the last 2 years, there has clearly been a Ferrari bias. Everything possible has been done to ensure the red cars pick up the maximum points.
You may not like to hear it JRS, but Ferrari do appear to always gain points whenever the F1 authorities intervene in some way. This may be a coincidence or it may be intentional.
RIP F1.
its bad enough that the cars look *retarted* now they have to race to a set of retarded rules. clown-car gp.
Ironic! lol
Oh God, not again.....
Well they would, wouldn't they? They've been hanging around at the top of F1 for years, with one minor blip in competitiveness since 1997.
I don't dispute that the stewards have made some crap decisions (although you have so far somehow managed to miss or ignore that fact). What I do dispute is that it was all done to aid Ferrari and that there is a gigantic pro-Ferrari conspiracy at the FIA. And if there was a gigantic pro-Ferrari conspiracy, it didn't exactly work did it?
Hamilton won, Massa lost. So please, please, pretty please with a cherry on top.....drop this tired old Ferrari International Assistance bull****.
Been lurking and not posting throughout the winter too.
The news of this farcicle points and winning system has me very sad indeed. How on earth can you have a sensational tight finish like the end of last season. And after that how can they be sane to introduce this system considering how amazing the end to last years was
For the time being YES, but I have a hunch that many of us will be bringing it up again regarding a perfectly legal overtaking manouvere by another championship contender vs ferrari.
The news of this farcicle points and winning system has me very sad indeed. How on earth can you have a sensational tight finish like the end of last season. And after that how can they be sane to introduce this system considering how amazing the end to last years was
For the time being YES, but I have a hunch that many of us will be bringing it up again regarding a perfectly legal overtaking manouvere by another championship contender vs ferrari.
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Yes the 2008 season finished with excitement but MOST of the races didn't, with the 2nd place man happy to collect his 8 points. We'll have to see what happens but I expect this new rule will make the last third of the race far more exciting than the precession home it typically was in the past.
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But there have been too many rule changes to guarantee anything. Maybe this new points/win thing would change the racing excitement, but add the aero change, the tyre change, any pit stop changes, KERS, in season testing, and you may end up with a less exciting race format.
You can't just push a hundred new untested things in, and expect them all to contribute together to improve the racing. Something is likely to counteract with something else to nulify it.
The more you add, the more chances you have of making things worse instead of better.
To me last year proves why the new "wins" system is *****
If we had this years "scoring" system last year a totally UNdeserving driver would have won the WDC because of a farcical off-track decision in Spa
Its bad enough that a race can be unfairly awarded like that, but to have the WDC awarded because of it makes it a complete mockery imo
If we had this years "scoring" system last year a totally UNdeserving driver would have won the WDC because of a farcical off-track decision in Spa
Its bad enough that a race can be unfairly awarded like that, but to have the WDC awarded because of it makes it a complete mockery imo
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Well Bourdais season is off to a great start crashing the Peugeot 908 at Sebring on his outlap in testing.
But you couldn't just put it down to Spa, could you? You might as well say that Massa would have won it because Hamilton crashed into the back of a stationary car in the pitlane with the red light on and his team screaming at him over the radio to hit the sodding brakes and thus lost a near-certain win.
Though I certainly agree that the Spa decision was a complete farce (lets see if sunama spots it this time....).