Poll: F1 2022 - Pre-season testing and discussion

Who will win the 2022 Formula 1 constructor's title ?

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Flibster said:
Yeah, not sure about this one. So lapped cars can pass, then on the same lap the safety car dives into the pits and the race is underway again just as the leader starts to catch up with the cars that have unlapped themselves?
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I think the idea is to put that into the hands of the Race Director's judgement. So whilst they would normally ensure that the lapped cars can make a good gap before releasing the rest they have the option of not doing so in order to get racing back underway if necessary.
 
Flibster said:
Yeah, not sure about this one. So lapped cars can pass, then on the same lap the safety car dives into the pits and the race is underway again just as the leader starts to catch up with the cars that have unlapped themselves?

Not ideal.
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I read it as to say that the safety car can come back in to the pits at *any* point after the last lapped car has passed the leader. It's down to the discretion of the race director how much time he gives those lapped cars to build a gap. It could be another lap or two, or technically it could event be just before the last corner (although unlikely).
 
Just seems ridiculous that they have not stuck with safety car comes in on the lap after all lapped cars have unlapped themselves.

If there are not enough laps left to make that work, so safety car implemented within last 5 laps for instance, then it is an automatic red flag, either no tyre changes allowed for anyone, or free tyre choice for everyone, even if used up previous allowance, so basically everyone is back out on supersofts for last racing laps, then a rolling restart with minimum two full racing laps, even if one or two laps need adding to former full race distance.
 
Mr Jack said:
I think the idea is to put that into the hands of the Race Director's judgement. So whilst they would normally ensure that the lapped cars can make a good gap before releasing the rest they have the option of not doing so in order to get racing back underway if necessary.
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in my personal opinion, nothing at all, should be down to someone's judgement.

Rules should be written in such a way, it is black and white, so everyone knows exactly what should happen under any circumstances, so prior planning and strategy can be drawn up.

If something, or anything, is down to someones judgement, there is room for human error to creep in.
 
Entai said:
in my personal opinion, nothing at all, should be down to someone's judgement.
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I think it's totally unrealistic to think that you can write rules that don't involve judgement in a sport like F1; however, I agree that it's a good goal. If, for example, you want to avoid finishing under the safety car then introduce a rule than any stoppage in the last 5 laps (or whatever) brings out a red flag and the race gets restarted.
 
This might be the wine talking, but why should lapped cars get out of the way at all? They're still on track whilst racing, why confuse things further? Would avoid the nonsense like we had last season when two drivers at the front have such a huge gap that the driver in second place has basically won the race with a well timed safety car.
 
Scam said:
This might be the wine talking, but why should lapped cars get out of the way at all? They're still on track whilst racing, why confuse things further? Would avoid the nonsense like we had last season when two drivers at the front have such a huge gap that the driver in second place has basically won the race with a well timed safety car.
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It's for the show. And to minimise any chance of a lapped car having an effect on the outcome of the race. I still say, make the lapped cars go through the pitlane and Safety car in at the end of the next lap.
 
Mr Jack said:
I think it's totally unrealistic to think that you can write rules that don't involve judgement in a sport like F1; however, I agree that it's a good goal. If, for example, you want to avoid finishing under the safety car then introduce a rule than any stoppage in the last 5 laps (or whatever) brings out a red flag and the race gets restarted.
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Sorry i disagree, rules can most definitely be written to completely eliminate judgement.
 
Scam said:
This might be the wine talking, but why should lapped cars get out of the way at all? They're still on track whilst racing, why confuse things further? Would avoid the nonsense like we had last season when two drivers at the front have such a huge gap that the driver in second place has basically won the race with a well timed safety car.
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I think the unique aspect of Lewis and Max being so much faster than everyone else did compound this issue last season. As you have said, with everyone else being left in the dust, and Bottas being hopeless, the driver in 2nd between the two gets a massive advantage due to a safety car. If anyone could actually have kept up, then Max would not have just continually been able to get free pit stops.
 
After seeing the launch cars, I've switched my vote from Ferrari to Mercedes. Maybe that funky-looking car will turn out to be genius, but I think we've seen the outlying cars struggle far more often than we've seen them excel in the past.
 
Looks nice enough, but no getting away from the fact it's a glorified caravan. I presume they stay in fancy hotels most of the time e.g. at race weekends?
 
Scam said:
Looks nice enough, but no getting away from the fact it's a glorified caravan. I presume they stay in fancy hotels most of the time e.g. at race weekends?
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It varies. Some drivers do, some don't, most - afaict - sometimes do and sometimes don't. If you watch Kym Illman's videos on the cars the drivers drive to track he talks about who is or isn't staying in the paddock.
 
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