Poll: F1 2022 - Pre-season testing and discussion

Who will win the 2022 Formula 1 constructor's title ?

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Oh I know the aim was to reduce the dirty air, but it doesn’t bode well if the slipstream is all but gone.

Having cars following closely without the chance to pass (because the slipstream is so bad) is just going to create more Trulli trains :(
 
EVH said:
Oh I know the aim was to reduce the dirty air, but it doesn’t bode well if the slipstream is all but gone.

Having cars following closely without the chance to pass (because the slipstream is so bad) is just going to create more Trulli trains :(
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Doesnt this stuff get tested before the regulations go in?
 
Mr Jack said:
The only way to actually test it is to make real cars with real budgets and put real drivers in them and see what happens so, no, it doesn't.

They do simulation and so forth, but until it's done in anger there's no way to know what will happen with perfect accuracy.
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The sport makes enough money to get a chassis setup to test this, only really needs 2 cars.
 
MissChief said:
From who? What Engine? How will the FIA make sure any team or engine supplier gets any data and makes it unfair? Building a modern F1 car is a £100 million effort.
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You have massively over complicated it. The money answer is obvious.

Its easy if the will is there.

You can build a chassis for a fraction of the cost, it wouldnt be competitive, but it doesnt need to be to test the effects of changes.

F1 has been ran amateurish for years. It really baffles me whats happening in a sport with so much money.
 
chrcoluk said:
You have massively over complicated it. The money answer is obvious.

Its easy if the will is there.

You can build a chassis for a fraction of the cost, it wouldnt be competitive, but it doesnt need to be to test the effects of changes.

F1 has been ran amateurish for years. It really baffles me whats happening in a sport with so much money.
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Most of the money goes to the teams. Sure FOM aren't exactly paupers but I don't think actually building two cars to test if a concept works or not is a wise move, or a necessary one. The FIA can tweak the rules after every season for sporting reasons and I have no doubt there will be some changes made to even up the field and a few protests too no doubt.
 
MissChief said:
Most of the money goes to the teams. Sure FOM aren't exactly paupers but I don't think actually building two cars to test if a concept works or not is a wise move, or a necessary one. The FIA can tweak the rules after every season for sporting reasons and I have no doubt there will be some changes made to even up the field and a few protests too no doubt.
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Tweaking rules so often is one of many of F1's problems, rules need to be consistent.
 
chrcoluk said:
The sport makes enough money to get a chassis setup to test this, only really needs 2 cars.
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With what manufacturing capacity? The FIA doesn't have any, and if you get one of the teams to build it you give them an early advantage with the new rules. Even then you're spending £30m or £40m to learn what the rules mean before team interpretation so you still don't get certainty.
 
Total laps done for the teams (yeah, I'm too lazy to transcribe that so you get a bloated graphic, bite me)

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Ferrari and Mercedes clearly on top, but I'd think everyone down to Alpha are pretty happy, even Aston and Alpine won't be too worried about those numbers. Haas and Alfa on the other hand have work to do in Bahrain in a couple of weeks.
 
cuke2u said:
Seems that Mclaren's wind tunnel didn't lie...
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It is impossible to simulate or correct porpoising in a wind tunnel, especially this year when no one can run high speed in the wind tunnels.

Even working it out in CFD is almost impossible.
You only see it with on track testing.

Hence the reason so many teams are affected by it.
 
GravyMonster said:
Excellent news.

Hopefully Haas will actually do some god damn due diligence with who they choose as a title sponsor in future. Although I doubt it as Gene Haas seems intent to grab money from anywhere except his own wallet.
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I don’t think there was anything particularly wrong with their choice of sponsor, there are hundreds of deals with companies that have dodgy links across sports and entertainment. They just didn’t expect Putin to invade Ukraine at the beginning of last season when they signed him up.
 
For anyone that did not see the season recap "Duel" episodes on Sky sports the other night, I came across this video on youtube which is quite a nice production doing largely the same. What a gripping season.

 
Wow from various social media it seems Karen spice and redbull are really taking the Masi sacking hard. I think it's to do with the fact they lost their leverage and wingman in the race directors office..
 
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Locky said:
Wow from various social media he seems Karen spice and redbull are really taking the Masi sacking hard. I think it's to do with the fact they lost their leverage and wingman in the race directors office..
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Probably because it adds weight to the argument that Max's title is illegitimate.

If there was nothing wrong with the way that final race went down, there would be no grounds for Masi's removal.*

Horner can try and spin it as "Mercedes bullying" but the rest of the world (bar RBR and die-hard Max fans) know that it was a farce.

*Let's say "less" grounds for Masi's removal, because he wasn't exactly stellar throughout the whole season, it wasn't just Abu Dhabi.
 
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