Farage has bank accounts closed

Mr Badger · 29 Jun 2023 at 14:48

Roar87 said:
Curious about the details but not really surprised people on here don't find political persecution to be a massive issue.

Roar87 said:
Yes, Ukraine has very high levels of corruption, historically and in modern day Ukraine. That's why you see the likes of Hunter Biden over there.

You seem remarkably receptive to messages put out by the likes of Farage, Trump, Russia etc.

sigma · 29 Jun 2023 at 14:49

sigma said:
Do you have a credible source of this law?

If not, @BowdonUK , please state which political beliefs are not accepted by the banks, do they ask for your voting preferences upon sign up?

sigma · 29 Jun 2023 at 14:50

Mr Badger said:
You seem remarkable receptive to messages put out by the likes of Farage, Trump, Russia etc.

That's a personal attack!

Werewolf · 29 Jun 2023 at 14:53

Mr Jack said:
Rubbish. They blocked people for promoting hate speech.

Which do you think is more likely? (1) Patreon are happily hosting paedos or (2) Patreon aren't terribly good at detecting and removing accounts?

I'd take option 2 for £500

It's always going to be the case that payment companies are reactive to information they receive, and people get very upset when they actively vet by repeatedly asking the same questions and more and more personal information, usually getting a response along the lines of "why are you wanting that information, I'm not a criminal, how dare you suggest I'm a criminal"*.
No company ever wants the allegation they've been involved in that sort of thing, especially not as there can IIRC be personal liability in some jurisdictions for people at the company if it turns out they were aware and were turning a blind eye. It's one of the reasons some companies end up being actively forced to take more preventative measures as some took the view that as long as they didn't find anything they could claim they didn't know and thus didn't put the effort in (IIRC it's one of the reasons the social media companies specifically have "compliance" teams and "child protection" teams to show they are trying to deal with it)

*Like DBS checks, a number of people actively refused to do them when they came in, preferring to give up volunteer work than be tarred with what they saw was a suggestion they were dodgy.

Raz · 29 Jun 2023 at 14:57

sigma said:
That's a personal attack!

More of an observation

, taking a balanced view is always best though.

rumple9 · 29 Jun 2023 at 14:57

Boris Johnson next on the list

Tony Edwards · 29 Jun 2023 at 14:59

I wonder if they have found serious irregularities in a recent awards voting system?

robgmun · 29 Jun 2023 at 15:08

BowdonUK said:
Isn't this what happened to the Triggernometry guys recently?

I know at least 3 people in the past who have had their personal account closed. One only found out when he went into the bank to make a deposit.

II think this issue shows the dangers of a cashless society, especially when banks are doing this. They have been already dictating what kind of businesses they deem acceptable in the past. Anyone remember when they were going to block OnlyFans payments? They only backtracked when everyone complained.

One of the first companies to do this kind of behaviour online was Patreon. Any political content they didn't agree with they blocked the account. But look who's accounts they haven't been blocking;

Illegal trade in AI child sex abuse images exposed

Paedophiles are using the technology to create and sell life-like abuse material, the BBC finds.

www.bbc.co.uk

Paedophiles are selling AI child sex abuse images on an ‘industrial scale’

The content is reportedly being posted on a Japanese social platform and sold through subscriptions on Patreon

uk.sports.yahoo.com

I'm not surprised at the usual suspects who don't see the problem with this. They just show themselves to be as vicious and hypocritical as I think they are.

There should be laws in place to fully disclose why they are shutting down an account and laws to prevent it from happening if they have no other account.

VincentHanna · 29 Jun 2023 at 15:11

robgmun said:
I'm not surprised at the usual suspects who don't see the problem with this. They just show themselves to be as vicious and hypocritical as I think they are.

There should be laws in place to fully disclose why they are shutting down an account and laws to prevent it from happening if they have no other account.

It's not that I don't see an issue with it.

More that I don't just take Farage at his word. Definitely more to it than this.

Could be a police investigation ongoing for example.

str · 29 Jun 2023 at 15:12

Raz said:
More of an observation , taking a balanced view is always best though.

That's what the AI goes on about. I like balanced and I almost prefer to never always something. Why are we one-time extremists!?

robgmun · 29 Jun 2023 at 15:12

VincentHanna said:
It's not that I don't see an issue with it.

More that I don't just take Farage at his word. Definitely more to it than this.

Could be a police investigation ongoing for example.

This isn't the first time, as said it happened to Triggernometry as well.

thenewoc · 29 Jun 2023 at 15:13

SixTwoSix said:
Can't view the link at work, why's he had his accounts closed?

He hasn't been told, other than a vague explanation being for commercial reasons, more to come on GB News later tonight though.

VincentHanna · 29 Jun 2023 at 15:13

robgmun said:
This isn't the first time, as said it happened to Triggernometry as well.

I've no idea who that is.

bazzabear · 29 Jun 2023 at 15:14

robgmun said:
There should be laws in place to fully disclose why they are shutting down an account and laws to prevent it from happening if they have no other account.

Disclose to who? We only have Farage's word that they haven't disclosed to him. And surely it would be a massive privacy concern if they disclosed it to anyone else?

robgmun · 29 Jun 2023 at 15:15

VincentHanna said:
I've no idea who that is.

https://www.youtube.com/@triggerpod

You might recognized one of them from this video:

OldKitMan · 29 Jun 2023 at 15:15

Banks wont be able to tell him why they have closed the accounts as that could be classed as 'tipping off' which is a big no-no.

robgmun · 29 Jun 2023 at 15:16

bazzabear said:
Disclose to who? We only have Farage's word that they haven't disclosed to him. And surely it would be a massive privacy concern if they disclosed it to anyone else?

Disclosed to the person who's account is being closed of course, who the hell else would i be talking about. They're pretty coy about explaining themselves.

robgmun · 29 Jun 2023 at 15:17

OldKitMan said:
Banks wont be able to tell him why they have closed the accounts as that could be classed as 'tipping off' which is a big no-no.

If there's an issue then the police need to contact Farage then, if this isn't a police matter then there shouldn't be a problem

bazzabear · 29 Jun 2023 at 15:18

robgmun said:
Disclosed to the person who's account is being closed of course, who the hell else would i be talking about. They're pretty coy about explaining themselves.

OK. So again. How do you know it hasn't been?

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior · 29 Jun 2023 at 15:19

robgmun said:
I'm not surprised at the usual suspects who don't see the problem with this. They just show themselves to be as vicious and hypocritical as I think they are.

There should be laws in place to fully disclose why they are shutting down an account and laws to prevent it from happening if they have no other account.

Would these laws Trump the other laws that already exist in regards shutting down accounts for reasons such as sending money to terrorists?

Personal accounts are also different from business ones. Who knows maybe his business ones have loans or something already against them.
In fact his personal could as well, loans that others don't want to take on.

I'm not surprised the usual suspects leap to defend because of their own prejudices. They just show themselves to be as weak minded and gullible as I think they are.