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As with the ghosting in motion noticed by HUB when aiming down the gun sights whilst using DLSS, neither solution is perfect tbh. Native is usually always king, unless the TAA solution is as bad as we see in Deathloop.Dodgy motion was at 4k quality as well. You can over sharpen in the Nvidia CP. Might just need better optimization from dev.
Some worse than others I think. As with the recent examples provided though in the last few posts, they each introduce their own issues. It really is a pick your poison isn't it.TAA is just bad in all games
Looking at the characteristics of where FSR 2 falls short and going by digital foundrys videos where they compared TSR and DLSS in ghostwire, FSR 2 is looking like it is very much based on TSR. Any info/idea on that Matt?
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Can't wait to see people saying that XeSS needs one year to implement since that much has passed from XeSS announcement until first release.Dolmen launches on May 20 and supports DLSS, XeSS and FSR at launch making it the first game to support all three technologies
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Update: Dolmen will not receive XeSS support till summer. Please see this post for an update. Dolmen to support Intel XeSS at launch In an interview with Wccftech, developers behind the upcoming action RPG “Dolmen” confirmed that their game will support Intel Xe Super Sampling at launch. This...
Can't wait to see people saying that XeSS needs one year to implement since that much has passed from XeSS announcement until first release.
The reality is all three solutions need the same time. And it is not minutes or hours even when you have an engine plugin ( it will take at least a couple of days to add it into the game, test it and tweak it ). Think before writing something this stupid, even if you have a plugin you still need to at least add the option to your game menu, you can't do that in minutes.
On the other hand i see the Nvidia bodyguard said FSR works better on Ampere. But if we check other websites, for example this obscure one, we see this:
6800XT goes from 33.8 FPS in native to 55.5 FSR2Q to 74 FPS FSR2P
3080 goes from 46.3 FPS in native to 68.4 FSR2Q to 90.4 FSR2P
So we see the perf increase in Big Navi is more than 60% for FSR2Q and more than 100% for FSR2P
On Ampere the perf increase is less than 50% on FSR2Q and less than 100% on FSR2P.
So how can it work better on Ampere?
I think it is a lot more work than some of us think and tbh i don't see FSR2 being added in a lot of games unless AMD pays a lot of money, the way Nvidia did/does. There are two ways to do it, you either pay for their time to add your feature in their games or you build hype and put pressure on the developers like :" can't believe FC6 doesn't have the state of the art temporal upscaler"
You don't read your own posts. Because that guy says " it will take few days to ...". You don't just activate a plugin or add the motion vectors or whatever. All these things need to be tested and tweaked, the features need to be added to the game UI and so on. That takes time. It is not a minute process and it is not a five hours process. It will take at least several days if you want to make sure the feature works ok.
Dodgy motion was at 4k quality as well. You can over sharpen in the Nvidia CP. Might just need better optimization from dev.
At the very end of the video he showed another weird ghosting issue with DLSS too that looks very similar to that FSR example posted earlier. Makes me think it might be an issue unique to this game rather than tied to either tech.
Little un often has me up at 5am.You get up very early Matthew! If in doubt, always, always blame the game then local system issue before demanding further evidence. We know that by now!
Nvidia 3000-series is def a compute powerhouse, might be what's helping it here?I think it is a lot more work than some of us think and tbh i don't see FSR2 being added in a lot of games unless AMD pays a lot of money, the way Nvidia did/does. There are two ways to do it, you either pay for their time to add your feature in their games or you build hype and put pressure on the developers like :" can't believe FC6 doesn't have the state of the art temporal upscaler"
Nvidia has the advantage of the number of DLSS ready cards already sold so it is much easier to put pressure on the devs. And they have a much bigger wallet.
This is the link ( it was translated first, that's why it wasn't working, and most likely those are the numbers. Anyone can do the maths and see the big navi has bigger gains from FSR2:
ML is not the solution to every problem, especially when you're looking for consistency. When you use fixed algorithms you know how they can fail and correct their flaws to a certain extent, with ML you end up with endless corner cases that you cannot easily fix.
