Fiesta ST's... whats to know?
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Until you've been suspended for quoting a picture of a car you wanted to make a comment of in a 500 page thread, you cant complain
i was permabanned for posting from Uni and then going Home and posting again.
Beat that
i was permabanned for calling a Don a nazi...
...oh wait.
Ah the days of my youth, but anyway, back to FiestaST's?
Wow, 3 pages! Thanks for all the replies, I will get this thread saved and make a bit of a checklist worth keeping hold of for stuff to check on these cars, appreciate all the input.
No major problems all in all then, I guess it's all a cheap and easy fix for the most part on any issues being a simple ol' Ford?
Special thanks to Overlag (sure I've seen some vids of your car on youtube? Sounds nice
), rjkoneill and especially Will, for their very informative posts. Will make a good read if anyone else tries to search for Fiesta ST info on OcUK motors Would like see/hear more of your car Will, sounds fun!
A comment on the MPG side of things, just how bad are they? In my Golf pootling around town with fuel at about £1.20 a litre I am getting 110 miles tops to 20 quid currently... if I ever give it any, properly, then this changes drastically lol. If you drive these things like Miss Daisy do they do ok around town?
A mountune one would be great but a bog standard one which has had an easy life would be fine. I like to modify cars a bit and I tend to get more from it if I have a blank canvas to start with. My Corsa B sport was loved by me more than my Golf, which is ultimately a better car, because I made it my own from a standard well looked after car... and if I make the change I want to keep it for 3 years.
Insurance won't be a problem modded or not, I've always had modified cars. I'm 29 and pay 450 on my Golf with all mods declared living in a bad postcode with protected NCB, fully comp with all the trimmings of course via Chris Knott (Highway). Fiesta will be similar money due to value of the car.
I'd be looking for a facelifted car, with the nicer looking dash and front lights.. so 55 plate on? Ideally the newer the better with under 40k.
Are engine mounts, gearbox mounts all quite cheap to replace? It can make a huge difference to how smooth the car feels and something worth doing regardless as time goes on (it's been done on my Golf, with a polybushed dogbone gearbox mount also).
Stoke1863, no I live near Longton but work in Clayton so travel through there and trentham, the car you're on about is a 5 door and I drive past it daily. I have a rare one with it being 3 door and turbo'd, never seen another in that combo.
Prefer the Fiesta over the Clio and Civic and anything similar predominantly down to cost. Fixing a Ford is always gonna cost peanuts in comparison and I'm sure the Fiesta is less niggly, less rough and nicer inside than a Clio. I also think the Fiesta looks less dated. I've thought about all the others but cost of ownership being as cheap as poss but still a fun little car suits me. My Golf aint a hugely expensive car to own, but I paid 2250 for it and I've owned it 16 months and it owes me £3700.... thats not including any fuel or tax or anything like that, so say no more. Don't wanna spend much more on it and most of the money hasn't been on mods at all, just maintenance and replacing stuff (admittedly in a lot of cases for peace of mind and that I'm picky).
I'm not after it purely to rag around all day. I want it to be a nice town car, good looking for what it is, easy to drive, with a comfy enough well built(ish) interior with the potential to be fun and cheap to keep going for years to come. A same age/milage Civic is loads more money... as are most other alternatives it seems.
I would like to spend around £5k if I go down the Fiesta ST route. Not a lot else lights my fire at all for 5k and I really am not into big barges and all that sort of stuff.
I think the new Fiesta Zetec S's look cracking, shame like some have said there's no ST version yet, been talk of a turbo'd 1.6, could be fun and easily modified for mo' boost.
PS: I too have been banned a couple of times, it's all good lol can't beat this place for a bit of banter
No major problems all in all then, I guess it's all a cheap and easy fix for the most part on any issues being a simple ol' Ford?
Special thanks to Overlag (sure I've seen some vids of your car on youtube? Sounds nice
), rjkoneill and especially Will, for their very informative posts. Will make a good read if anyone else tries to search for Fiesta ST info on OcUK motors Would like see/hear more of your car Will, sounds fun!A comment on the MPG side of things, just how bad are they? In my Golf pootling around town with fuel at about £1.20 a litre I am getting 110 miles tops to 20 quid currently... if I ever give it any, properly, then this changes drastically lol. If you drive these things like Miss Daisy do they do ok around town?
A mountune one would be great but a bog standard one which has had an easy life would be fine. I like to modify cars a bit and I tend to get more from it if I have a blank canvas to start with. My Corsa B sport was loved by me more than my Golf, which is ultimately a better car, because I made it my own from a standard well looked after car... and if I make the change I want to keep it for 3 years.
Insurance won't be a problem modded or not, I've always had modified cars. I'm 29 and pay 450 on my Golf with all mods declared living in a bad postcode with protected NCB, fully comp with all the trimmings of course via Chris Knott (Highway). Fiesta will be similar money due to value of the car.
I'd be looking for a facelifted car, with the nicer looking dash and front lights.. so 55 plate on? Ideally the newer the better with under 40k.
Are engine mounts, gearbox mounts all quite cheap to replace? It can make a huge difference to how smooth the car feels and something worth doing regardless as time goes on (it's been done on my Golf, with a polybushed dogbone gearbox mount also).
Stoke1863, no I live near Longton but work in Clayton so travel through there and trentham, the car you're on about is a 5 door and I drive past it daily. I have a rare one with it being 3 door and turbo'd, never seen another in that combo.
Prefer the Fiesta over the Clio and Civic and anything similar predominantly down to cost. Fixing a Ford is always gonna cost peanuts in comparison and I'm sure the Fiesta is less niggly, less rough and nicer inside than a Clio. I also think the Fiesta looks less dated. I've thought about all the others but cost of ownership being as cheap as poss but still a fun little car suits me. My Golf aint a hugely expensive car to own, but I paid 2250 for it and I've owned it 16 months and it owes me £3700.... thats not including any fuel or tax or anything like that, so say no more. Don't wanna spend much more on it and most of the money hasn't been on mods at all, just maintenance and replacing stuff (admittedly in a lot of cases for peace of mind and that I'm picky).
I'm not after it purely to rag around all day. I want it to be a nice town car, good looking for what it is, easy to drive, with a comfy enough well built(ish) interior with the potential to be fun and cheap to keep going for years to come. A same age/milage Civic is loads more money... as are most other alternatives it seems.
I would like to spend around £5k if I go down the Fiesta ST route. Not a lot else lights my fire at all for 5k and I really am not into big barges and all that sort of stuff.
I think the new Fiesta Zetec S's look cracking, shame like some have said there's no ST version yet, been talk of a turbo'd 1.6, could be fun and easily modified for mo' boost.
PS: I too have been banned a couple of times, it's all good lol can't beat this place for a bit of banter
I get between 27-31mpg depending on how I drive it. One could probably do a bit better than me though since I have a fairly heavy right foot - if you want to get some economy then cruising around town at 30mph in fifth is quite comfortable and its plenty tractable to cruise around in a high gear at town speeds, pulling from lowish revs with ease. Above 60mph the gearing is going to start to harm economy though. I always wish it had a an extra (and long) sixth gear!
a 1.6 turbo is rumoured to be coming out soon.
Stormster
I polybushed my large bush on my Gearbox mount for £34. Cheap. Getting the old Bush out was an absolute PIG.
MPG wise it can be rather thirsty. My driving has changed in the last year to mostly town driving, so im between 24 and 28mpg
. You can get high 30s on a long trip though. Most people don't believe me but i used to get 400miles from a tank (45litres) which is about 37-40mpg. Now im struggling to get 280!And yeah theres a lot of videos on youtube by me. I need to get more up.
My mate is selling his due to the fuel consumption and buying a diesel! It is a quick car however and generally looks the part! he lives in Worksop like me and he hasn't had anything stolen off his car.
Insurance seems much more reasonable than for my clio 197, he has less no claims than me as well
There seems to be loads of them in worksop, all different colours, but very few 197's!
The lack of 6th gear is a problem regarding the economy.
His is in excellent condition as it only has one previous lady owner.
He had the starter motor go on him on a long drive, but other than that its just been regularly serviced.
Its a red one with just the stripes down the side on a 56 plate i think.
Insurance seems much more reasonable than for my clio 197, he has less no claims than me as well
There seems to be loads of them in worksop, all different colours, but very few 197's!
The lack of 6th gear is a problem regarding the economy.
His is in excellent condition as it only has one previous lady owner.
He had the starter motor go on him on a long drive, but other than that its just been regularly serviced.
Its a red one with just the stripes down the side on a 56 plate i think.
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Presume thats the 1.6 Ecoboost Turbo engine found in the states ?
For the 2012 Focus ST they've used the 2.0 Ecoboost Turbo engine from the states so it seems logical.
As for the engine mounts...the one that gets the most hammer (and the only one most people change) is the lower torque link, for this there are two options:
Powerflex bushes (one big, one small, to replace either end of the 'dogbone') cost around £40-50 if I recall correctly, removing the torque link is easy as its just two bolts but you need to get the car up on ramps to get access. The hardest part is pressing the old bushes out, the new bushes are two part so just push in from either side.
Vibratechnics Torque Link - this is a part with bushes in it that replaces the whole torque link 'dogbone' so thus saves hassle of pressing/cutting out the old bushes. There are two types, one is a billet item which costs well over £100 but more recently they have produced a simplified design which is £70-80 or so.
Of note is that changing any engine mounts for stiffer/stronger ones will increase noise and vibration in the cabin but if you've already done it on your Golf you will already know this!
Gearbox mounts are probably harder to change and I can't recall many people on Fiesta ST OC doing it. If you wanted the strongest possible mounts you can get the Group N rally car bits from M-Sport in Cumbria but they will be a bit hard for road use and cost a fortune!
Powerflex bushes (one big, one small, to replace either end of the 'dogbone') cost around £40-50 if I recall correctly, removing the torque link is easy as its just two bolts but you need to get the car up on ramps to get access. The hardest part is pressing the old bushes out, the new bushes are two part so just push in from either side.
Vibratechnics Torque Link - this is a part with bushes in it that replaces the whole torque link 'dogbone' so thus saves hassle of pressing/cutting out the old bushes. There are two types, one is a billet item which costs well over £100 but more recently they have produced a simplified design which is £70-80 or so.
Of note is that changing any engine mounts for stiffer/stronger ones will increase noise and vibration in the cabin but if you've already done it on your Golf you will already know this!
Gearbox mounts are probably harder to change and I can't recall many people on Fiesta ST OC doing it. If you wanted the strongest possible mounts you can get the Group N rally car bits from M-Sport in Cumbria but they will be a bit hard for road use and cost a fortune!
Yeah I wouldn't want tooo much vibration in the cabin, I get a little bit at the mo with powerflex polybushes on my dog bone at lower RPM but not too bad. If it came to replacing mounts, new OEM ones would probably last for however long I'd own the car.
However the cheaper Vibratechnics torque link looks a cheap quick fix, cheaper labour if not having to press bushes in and all that palava.
Ta for the info
Max Powah, out of interest what sort of money is he putting it up for? Just finding my feet with what they're truely worth.
However the cheaper Vibratechnics torque link looks a cheap quick fix, cheaper labour if not having to press bushes in and all that palava.
Ta for the info
Max Powah, out of interest what sort of money is he putting it up for? Just finding my feet with what they're truely worth.
Off you go then:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../postcode/pl11aa/radius/1501/page/1?logcode=p
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../postcode/pl11aa/radius/1501/page/1?logcode=p
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../postcode/pl11aa/radius/1501/page/1?logcode=p
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../page/2/postcode/pl11aa/radius/1501?logcode=p
Loads of cheap pre-facelifts..
I just don't know if I'd feel hard done by not having the nicer dash... Could always replace the front lights I guess lol.
Are there any other differences actually between pre and post 55 reg cars?? Just dash and lights?
I just don't know if I'd feel hard done by not having the nicer dash... Could always replace the front lights I guess lol.
Are there any other differences actually between pre and post 55 reg cars?? Just dash and lights?
He's looking at really old Hondas and stuff so I dont think the interior is on his list of things he cares about.
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But none of those have the all important mountune gear that makes it a half creditable car, which is where they really do fall down - You're paying considerably more (than a 182) but get considerably less. Awesome.
If you drive one and fall in love then fair play, I can't argue, hot hatches are a personal thing but how many of those who are claiming that a Mountune ST is a creditable alternative to the 182 (or even the 197) have actually driven them?
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