Fifa officials including vice president Jeffrey Webb arrested, Blatter getting it at last.

More FIFA money well spent and represents the immense hubris that FIFA has.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-33050289

United Passions - a Movie about the History of FIFA as an organisation was funded by FIFA upto about £17 million

The Movie's estimated budget is between $25 - $32 million (£16 - £21 million)

On its limited release in the US it made $820 (yes that Eight Hundred and Twenty Dollars) over the past 3 days on 10 screens

By Comparison Testamont of Youth made $53,000 in the same number of days on 4 screens.

and for scope Spy! made $30m on 3,711 screens over 3 days.
 
Well I guess it proves the old adage that any PR is good PR no matter how bad it is, is wrong.

I was just thinking the same. Its quite astounding how badly it has done considering the current controversy. I assumed it would make an ok amount with the spotlight on FIFA.
 
I wonder what will happen in 2022. I think Russia looks OK doesn't it?

I would imagine USA would be favourites for 2022 considering I saw something about it not being in Europe.
 
If there is evidence that Russia won the bid due to bribery in the next couple of years I can still see them being stripped of it. There will be a cut off of how quickly an alternative can be organised, probably about 6 months if a big European nation was selected that already had all the infrastructure. Bigger issue before that would be that fans would be booking flights and hotels well in advance of that.
 
Walter De Gregorio is gone... apparently he has been sacked for saying the following joke on Swiss TV...

FIFA president, general secretary and communications director are in a car. Who's driving?

The Police.





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More FIFA money well spent and represents the immense hubris that FIFA has.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-33050289

United Passions - a Movie about the History of FIFA as an organisation was funded by FIFA upto about £17 million

The amount 'made' doesn't matter, it's a slush fund. Fifa are a non profit organisation meaning they need to not be making much profit basically. So they spend the money they have on whatever the hell they can. Blatter and several other execs probably got half a mil each to be consultants on the film for historical accuracy. Welcome to the way the world works, the goal of the film wasn't to be a box office hit but to push another $30mil into their own pockets in a way that is legally allowed. Giving themselves a flat half a mil bonus each is wrong, using money on supposed PR for Fifa then paying themselves fees to provide help... allowed.

So now the FA is worried about Jack Warner trip to see Prince Charles "apparently"

Not only that, the FA has been supporting Warner for a couple of decades. Once again why I find everything that has been going on laughable. It's one bunch of crooks getting upset their bungs weren't enough then publicly calling the other guys corrupt.... while hoping no one actually realises they themselves were corrupt as well.

Dyke taking a watch as a personal gift he just had no idea was really expensive. You think that was the first gift he accepted, you think the FA hasn't given out 'gifts' of it's own over the years.

It genuinely makes me sad that people think Blatter is the ultimate problem, that Fifa will somehow change with someone else in charge, that people don't understand this is how pretty much every single organisation out there works for most sports, most areas in life.

As usual it's a case of, England didn't win a bit, crucify someone we deem to be at fault. Blatter is corrupt, Dyke is corrupt, the FA is corrupt. But people want Blatter out, wouldn't mind seeing Dyke in the job. Corruption bad.... unless it's working for you then corruption is good and can be entirely ignored.

Votes that result in huge sums of cash being spent in a specific location = corruption, why, because humans are involved. Football, education, health care, military, this is how everything works. I just find it so strange people can ignore 99% of corruption and get randomly upset at one particular guy about it, all the while pretending 'their' side is completely clean and blameless.
 
They will get him, just a matter of time. They are just moving the chips about a bit and seeing what unravels that they don't already know, which must be a lot given the nature of the case and how many countries are likely to be involved.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33361709

Sepp Blatter; said:
"Anybody who calls me corrupt because Fifa is corrupt, I can only shake my head," he said.

"Everybody who says something like that should go to jail," he added.

Well, they'd better build a gallows for me, because I've been saying that for donkeys years & he'd better get used to picking up soap off the floor. :p
 
Jeffrey Webb, Fifa vice-president in charge of North and Central America, was among those arrested by Swiss police in a raid on a luxury hotel in the early hours of 27 May.

The seven are among 14 defendants the US has charged with racketeering, wire fraud, and money laundering conspiracies.

In a 47-count indictment unveiled in a New York federal court, they were accused of taking part "in a 24-year scheme to enrich themselves through the corruption of international soccer".

The indictment alleges that US and South American sports marketing executives paid and agreed to pay "well over $150m" in bribes and other illegal payments to obtain lucrative media and marketing rights to football tournaments.

The corruption was planned in the US, the indictment said. The use of US banks to transfer money appears to have been key to the investigation.

The charges follow a three-year FBI investigation. It was initially sparked by the bidding process for the Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022 World Cups, but was then widened to look back at Fifa's dealings over two decades.


Are people incapable or reading or seeing beyond their own hatred? People have been banging on about Blatter from the start, largely because the English media hate him as we haven't won a world cup bid.... that we knew we couldn't win before we spent 20mil on it. Our on guy has accepted gifts in the past, our own guys have paid and helped Warner before... but lets blame Blatter.

The majority of this investigation is based around Concacaf, which is crazily corrupt. Fifa has little to no control over the president of another federation. The corruption they are investigating was planned and organised in the states, involves US/south american companies, the payments were made through US banks and after three years of investigating they have not indicted Blatter.... but everyone here thinks he's guilty for the Concacaf being corrupt as hell for 20+ years?

The narrative from the start from the US and UK was corruption in Fifa... it's all Blatter, he's the one. The facts from the start... after years of investigating they have a massive ludicrous mountain of evidence of corruption from people all around Concacaf including the US Fifa/Concacaf candidate who is so outwardly and visibly corrupt it's hilarious. The US KNEW this guy was corrupt for the past 20 years and did nothing about it. Not sure if he was involved when the USA had the world cup... probably did, probably paid for votes, but they won(the bid to host that is) so it's all fine.

This time they bid on a world cup, lost and... well, probably it would seem a bunch of companies who all paid millions for votes to get the world cup back to the USA got upset when they didn't win and an investigation into how their almighty american corruption failed to work was started.

As for yet all proof points to Concacaf being corrupt as ****, everyone with half a brain knowing it and this is and always has been America/south american/concacaf members responsibilities.

I'm absolutely fine with hating Blatter, though he's done a U-turn on goal line and is one of the first people to be talking positively about video replays(which the sport desperately needs). This thread is effectively about Concacaf corruption and how crap American/south American has been in dealing with them and how long they've let them get away with this. However the UK and US media are attempting to frame the problem as a Blatter problem simply because Blatter isn't unfairly pro US/UK/Western Europe and is happy to take the world cup anywhere and everywhere... as it damn well should.

I'll also state, it's perfectly possible he's corrupt and they will eventually get him, but nothing at all so far has pointed towards really much of anything beyond Concacaf being involved. I really don't know what people think Fifa is, they aren't a police force, they don't have monumental powers. If people go to meetings for Fifa then go back to their normal jobs as parts of the individual federations and then start accepting bribes on the quiet into secret accounts... there is not much at all that Fifa can do about it. What can be done is the individual federations themselves can spot and remove these people... and none of them have.
 
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