FIFA World Cup 2014 - Semi-finals [8th - 9th July] **spoilers**

Jose Morinho has also said he is the best CAM he has ever worked with.

I think we should trust in what Jose and Low say about Ozil.

They are proffesional managers of the football game, we are not

Like Scolari says Fred is great? Being a professional manager doesn't preclude you from making mistakes. If anything it makes your public opinion less believable.

Watch ANY tribute tv piece to any player, and each time you get the same people footballers, managers, pundits saying the same thing about different players, he's the best in the world, he makes the team tick, or other such things.

When you work in an area you can't afford to alienate anyone, ever so people are almost universally nice and unbelievable apologetic. How many English pundits, be them ex footballers, ex managers or current ones for that matter, slated say Rooney... they didn't, they found excuses.

It's like at work, if someone asked you in front of the rest of the team if person X is great... you say yes because people can hear you and it's the polite thing to be done.

You don't crap where you eat, in any profession you don't bad mouth a player at any team for no reason and you usually talk up how great they are. Mourinho might work with Ozil again even if he would never choose to buy him ever. Mata, who most people rate in a similar way to Ozil, was gotten rid of by Mourinho, after Mourinho spent all summer saying how important he was and how he would be part of the first team. So how does that work, manager talking UP how good the player is but shifts him out of the door when he could?

What about the fact that Mourinho didn't trust Ozil to play more than 60 minutes, dropped him for some key games?

Managers aren't infallible just because they are "professionals" in the game of football. For the reasons above they are very rarely honest, really honest, in a public manor about the majority of players, anyone who thinks they are is blind. Imagine if Luis Enrique had publicly ranted about Suarez's behaviour after his last bite, calling him an animal, saying he should never play the game. With Barcelona planning to buy Suarez, would they have considered him as manager when the player might not like him and the manager might hate the player... likely not. Being honest could have cost him a huge job.

It's why managers.... who aren't seeking to be pundits, are often the most truthful... they have nothing to lose/gain by lying.

Let's also for the record, not forget that Ozil apparently loves Mourinho and vice versa, Ozil was pimped around Europe to anyone around. Despite being the very best CAM Mourinho has ever worked with.... no interest in buying Ozil at all...... hmmmm.
 
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Tonight's game I just have no idea what way it's going to go. I think it boils down to which team marks Messi/Robben the best. Argentina without Di Maria is quite a hefty loss.

....and whether the ref can spot a dive :D.
 
Just been into Paddy Power to fix a terminal, someone just walked out with 21k, what were the odds for 8 goals or more??:eek::eek:

Germany to score 5 or more was 150/1, not sure about over 7.5 goals. Huge.

Hope you whacked the percentage payout up on those robbing things ;)
 
Honestly I'm surprised the odds were so high for a high scoring game. Brazil's defence was already pretty dire and that was with Silva there.

I should have put a fiver on it :(
 
Couldnt believe my eyes haha!! Quite a big win, odds like you say must have been massive. Bet he put no more than £80:eek:

Cant mess with the odds on a BGT terminal, all direct from there head office server.

Other stuff is different however ;)
 
Tonight's game I just have no idea what way it's going to go. I think it boils down to which team marks Messi/Robben the best. Argentina without Di Maria is quite a hefty loss.

Both teams have had a relatively easy ride through the tournament so far - it could be another Brazil-esque case of a team coming undone as soon as they face a team of real quality. Although it isn't clear which would be which. Not that I'm expecting a high-scoring game tonight - if van Gaal was prepared to play seven men in defence against Mexico, God knows what he'll do against Messi and co.

Despite scoring the winning goal, Di Maria had a bit of a shocker against the Swiss. He's a good player but considering his form I'm not sure how big a loss he'll be, particularly as they should have Aguero back. Holland losing van Persie would be a much bigger blow considering who they've got to replace him (Lens or Huntelaar), but I suspect his stomach bug may just be one of van Gaal's mind games.
 
David Luiz seemed to think captaincy meant having permission to neglect his defensive duties and lead every attack, if he'd just focussed on his defensive duties instead of trying to be a one man band Brazil would still have some dignity.

I think being captain and losing his player for the first goal was one of the main reasons for the carnage in the first half. After Luiz error he tried to rectify it by breaking forward in attacks and leaving huge holes in the centre of defence. For a number of the goals he was 30 yards up the pitch which is just insane for a central defender.
 
Did you ask how many 21k they lost before that?

Nope dont like to pray too much but I guess some folk will be having some huge payouts today, wasnt it 33/1 for 4 goals or more by Germany? Must be something silly like 300/1 for 7, or 8 goals or more!!!
 
The most amazing thing for me is not the final scoreline. It's the way Brazil just crumbled for those 6 minutes.

Conceding 4 goals in 6 minutes is insane when you consider 1-2 mins of that is kick-off and picking the ball out of the net.

I'm glad I watched this game, because I was considering not!

It is really shocking to think in around 4 minutes of actually game play Brazil let in 4 goals. You could never imagine that even if a world champion team was playing a complete unknown. its like they just stood there and assumed some kind of time out would be called the goals disallowed. It was just bizzare to see goal after goal and brazil doing nothing about it at all
 
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