To be fair, that's Aikido
Haha, for me it was the Farms unarmed combat training. Number one technique, smash 'em in face as hard and quick as you can, preferably before they finish verbally threatening you.
Poll: Fight: steven seagal v JCVD - Who do you think would win?
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Haha, for me it was the Farms unarmed combat training. Number one technique, smash 'em in face as hard and quick as you can, preferably before they finish verbally threatening you.
Soldato
Zanshin is one of the most important things you can learn in the martial arts, e.g. this. Obviously it's completely irrelevant in mono-a-mono MMA.Haha, for me it was the Farms unarmed combat training. Number one technique, smash 'em in face as hard and quick as you can, preferably before they finish verbally threatening you.
Haha, for me it was the Farms unarmed combat training. Number one technique, smash 'em in face as hard and quick as you can, preferably before they finish verbally threatening you.
Followed by a kick/knee to the balls?
I always think that, it's all very well training for specifics but in reality it's all about getting in first (unless you are VERY good at your art) and trying not to get hit back...
Soldato
Agree with that too to an extent. In an honest to goodness pub brawl, its knees, elbows, biting, ash trays and chairs - and its all over in seconds - usually in a confined space. At the end of the day, no amount of bruce lee shennanigans will do you any good if someone with 16 stone behind them has just smashed an ashtray into the bridge of your nose. The eyes fill with blood and you're on your arse.
In situations like that, most martial arts are a complete load of rubbish.
In this case though, I'm still backing Mr Segal
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Don't post videos with swearing in it please.
Anyone who thinks Seagal would win is an absolute idiot when it comes to knowing anything about fighting and should probably hand in both their man cards and have other people make important life decisions for them.
Anyone who thinks Seagal would win is an absolute idiot when it comes to knowing anything about fighting and should probably hand in both their man cards and have other people make important life decisions for them.
Soldato
I thought it was Seagal in his prime vs JKVD in his?
As per the comment - someone call mythbusters - seriously though as much as the romanticism of some mr miyagi type character being some sort of elite ninja warrior might be appealing this is just pure bullshido...
Even Seagal in his prime got chocked unconscious in front of the whole set of a movie by Gene Lebell, to the point he soiled himself. Seagal cannot fight, he is an actor, that is all.
JCVD has about 15 ranked pro fights.
Every former fighter action hero actor would probably beat Seagal, including Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris and JCVD.
Stop it, you will ruin the nerdy fantasies about being able to be tough without having to be tough.
Soldato
Hardly 'tough' is it.
It's called practice and reflexes. Hardly mysticism or rocket science now is it. Boxers will be able to see a punch happening long before you've lifted your little arms to hit them. Of all the things to criticise, you picked an odd one there.
Where is the EVIDENCE (this thread's favourite topic) of that? Find it. Even Lebell (who incidentally was a legend) played it down. Besides, super heroes sometimes get their comeuppance. Cough Gracie cough Kimura cough cough.
he did willingly get put into the choke though, it wasn't in a fight.
Lots of variations of the story tbh.. from him putting seagal into a choke, seagal tapping out claiming he 'wasn't ready yet' and then the choke being applied a second time.
Apparently he also won a fight with bruce lee....
Anyway with the absence of internet legend Chuck Norris - I'm sticking with JCVD in this thread.
Apparently he also won a fight with bruce lee....
Anyway with the absence of internet legend Chuck Norris - I'm sticking with JCVD in this thread.
Soldato
To quote, well you:
If this happened in front of a soon-to-be-fired film set, where are all the stories?
I see so a no-name magazine quote from Brazil, quoted on a highly biased forum has more veracity than Silva himself talking in an interview.....
What is your martial arts experience again...?
How do you know that Seagal cannot fight, that is pure conjecture.
Considering most of van damme's moves in his movies are dance moves and are completely unrelated to fighting that is a bit of a laugh.
The fact is that they are both actors and competition fighting is exactly that, competition. It is NOT real, it has specific rules and regulations.
Soldato
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I do, also, find it humorous (lol troll) how any videos or stories people post pro-Aikido are dismissed instantly. Yet an uncredited story about Lebell, and a Silva "marketer" are gospel.