Poll: Fight: steven seagal v JCVD - Who do you think would win?

[hurfdurf]

I'm not bragging, but I doubt even at even weight you have the experience or training.

Maybe not experience, but at even weight I would have age on you, 40 is pretty old!

Do you compete in Karate or Boxing? I have tried to watch Karate but like Taekwondo it looks ridiculous and I'm left wondering why the hell these people are not just competing in K1 (I secretly know that the answer is because they would get destroyed)

What was the injury?

 

[GarethSouthgate]

What Dan grade are you Castiel? Was it Higashi that you studied?

I did Shotokan then moved to Higashi, didn't find it all that different to be honest, very similar. Itching to get back into it went time allows, although boxing seems more suited to what I want at the moment, especially the fitness.

I have tried to watch Karate but like Taekwondo it looks ridiculous and I'm left wondering why the hell these people are not just competing in K1 (I secretly know that the answer is because they would get destroyed)

Machida has studied Karate afaik?

I suppose it's not as popular because it's based on self-defense (semi-contact) rather than all out attack.

 

[Castiel]

MMA isn't going to mean you can win you against someone with that kind of size and strength advantage in a street fight, but it will help more than Aikido ever would.

I disagree, Aikido uses the opponents weight and strength against them. In a street-fight where your opponent is the aggressor it would be very effective.

The variables in a street fight are endless, but any technique that keeps your opponent off balance is a boon.

Wrestling someone to the ground only achieves one thing, you both getting hurt.

 

[The IPB]

I'll step in for Castiel and take on Hurfdurf, 62kg I fight at

 

[Castiel]

What Dan grade are you Castiel? Was it Higashi that you studied?

I did Shotokan then moved to Higashi, didn't find it all that different to be honest, very similar. Itching to get back into it went time allows, although boxing seems more suited to what I want at the moment, especially the fitness.

Yes Higashi, I am nihon (2nd Dan) although it was awarded a long time ago.

 

[meghatronic]

Maybe not experience, but at even weight I would have age on you, 40 is pretty old!

You raise a good point here. If you assume Aikido is effective (I appreciate for you this is a big ask), age is no barrier. Gozo Shioda was in his late 70s still embarrassing people. Hélio Gracie, too, was very active in his old age.

Do you compete in Karate or Boxing? I have tried to watch Karate but like Taekwondo it looks ridiculous...

I quite like watching Kyokushin Karate:

 

[hurfdurf]

I'll step in for Castiel and take on Hurfdurf, 62kg I fight at

Come at me bro!

(P positive the point was weather or not MMA owns everything and you would be on my side)

 

[The IPB]

Ha ha I'm only jesting

Completely agree with you.

 

[hurfdurf]

I quite like watching Kyokushin Karate:

I too refuse to punch people in the face in a fight

 

[meghatronic]

The variables in a street fight are endless, but any technique that keeps your opponent off balance is a boon.

Wrestling someone to the ground only achieves one thing, you both getting hurt.

This really can't be emphasised enough. On the floor = good as dead. Especially if the aggressor has friends, or the ground has glass.

I too refuse to punch people in the face in a fight

Just role play, bruh.

 

[hurfdurf]

Ha ha I'm only jesting

Completely agree with you.

Oh look, colour me surprised, someone who actually fights agreeing with someone else who actually fights instead of pyjama play fighters

 

[GarethSouthgate]

I too refuse to punch people in the face in a fight

Tougher to practise as you can't really get KO'd easily.

Ah, it appears I was right, Machida studied Shotokan.

 

[The IPB]

I wouldn't write off all other martial arts as useless, they all have their place.

But MMA is the best for covering all the bases. Kind of what the name implies

 

[meghatronic]

Oh look, colour me surprised, someone who actually fights agreeing with someone else who actually fights instead of pyjama play fighters

"fights" = in a ring = sport = =

 

[Castiel]

Maybe not experience, but at even weight I would have age on you, 40 is pretty old!

Not that old. Fitness is also relative in a fight, you have to last long enough for it to tell.

Do you compete in Karate or Boxing? I have tried to watch Karate but like Taekwondo it looks ridiculous and I'm left wondering why the hell these people are not just competing in K1 (I secretly know that the answer is because they would get destroyed)

What was the injury?

I competed at junior level in Karate. I competed in inter-service boxing, and represented the UK against other armed services in various competitions.

I wouldn't just use Karate in a fight however.


Just a demonstration, but you get the idea.

I was injured in Iraq.

 

[meghatronic]

I wouldn't write off all other martial arts as useless, they all have their place.

But MMA is the best for covering all the bases. Kind of what the name implies

Jack of all trades, master of none?

I mean, what would George Foreman (in his prime) be like against Cain Velasquez or someone? (actually asking here).

 

[GarethSouthgate]

GSP and did Bas Rutten both did Kyokushin.

Chuck Liddell also did Karate.

 

[hurfdurf]

Jack of all trades, master of none?

I mean, what would George Foreman (in his prime) be like against Cain Velasquez or someone? (actually asking here).

He would get destroyed

 

[The IPB]

Jack of all trades, master of none?

I mean, what would George Foreman (in his prime) be like against Cain Velasquez or someone? (actually asking here).

He would get taken down and GNP or submitted.

 

[meghatronic]

He would get taken down and GNP or submitted.

I don't see Foreman succumbing to GNP to be honest. Submission maybe. I actually really wanna see this fight now.

Foreman would obviously win if he pulls out his grill.