Fire Thread! - Stoves, Wood, Axes, Chainsaws
Soldato
Very much depends on the specifics - does the flue have a (sound) liner, how many floors, what is the hearth made of, type / make / model of stove
But as a ballpark figure would say that's about expected
But as a ballpark figure would say that's about expected
Soldato
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Doesn't sound far off if the flue, surround and stove are decent qaulity. I paid £3.5k per stove a few years ago, I knew they were expensive at the time but was a great job.
Soldato
From earlier in the tread so cost seems about right
Caporegime
Here's our double sided burner. Its mirrored so both sides have the same door/window/controls.
It's the OER double sided stove e.g. https://www.stovesareus.co.uk/oer-7-double-sided-multifuel-wood-burning-stove.html
It's the OER double sided stove e.g. https://www.stovesareus.co.uk/oer-7-double-sided-multifuel-wood-burning-stove.html
Soldato
Oh, that’s a very good idea.
Soldato
Depends if your wife is like mine -doesn't like getting too close to the flames so she chucks the logs on - That rear glass wouldn't last 2 min.
We had a cast iron one once and I had a job closing it down till I noticed a crack all along back - When it was hot the gap opened up but you couldn't see it when cold -This one didn't come with fire bricks though.
Metal stove all day long for me -No matter what happens you can get them welded up anywhere.
Time to go light mine now - Ronnie (cat) has been in front of it for ages shivering
We had a cast iron one once and I had a job closing it down till I noticed a crack all along back - When it was hot the gap opened up but you couldn't see it when cold -This one didn't come with fire bricks though.
Metal stove all day long for me -No matter what happens you can get them welded up anywhere.
Time to go light mine now - Ronnie (cat) has been in front of it for ages shivering
Soldato
Not split them yet but took some readings:
Pretty high / as expected
Compared to the seasoned stuff I bought a few months ago :
Soldato
I have the exact same moisture meter.
My spilt and seasoned timber is around 15-20% by the time it’s sat on my balcony log pile out for the rain for a few days. I have a log basket either side of the stove in our living room and the wood I’ll burn tonight has been indoors for at least 24 hours, so it sits around 10-15% by the time it gets burnt. Any unused wood is around 5-8% moisture the next day.
My stove is an old model Godin and I thought the door seals needed replacing, but when we had the chimneys swept by a local hardware store specialising in stoves etc, their bloke passed it with flying colours.
He carried out a full inspection (chimney pipe passes through the one floor and a roof) as he has to sign it off as safe to use. If you have a stove/chimney fire out here and it hasn’t had a sweeping/inspection in the last 12 months, the insurance companies are very unlikely to pay out.
My spilt and seasoned timber is around 15-20% by the time it’s sat on my balcony log pile out for the rain for a few days. I have a log basket either side of the stove in our living room and the wood I’ll burn tonight has been indoors for at least 24 hours, so it sits around 10-15% by the time it gets burnt. Any unused wood is around 5-8% moisture the next day.
My stove is an old model Godin and I thought the door seals needed replacing, but when we had the chimneys swept by a local hardware store specialising in stoves etc, their bloke passed it with flying colours.
He carried out a full inspection (chimney pipe passes through the one floor and a roof) as he has to sign it off as safe to use. If you have a stove/chimney fire out here and it hasn’t had a sweeping/inspection in the last 12 months, the insurance companies are very unlikely to pay out.
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Not split them yet but took some readings:
Pretty high / as expected
Compared to the seasoned stuff I bought a few months ago :
I was going to say you don't really need to use a meter on that - don't have one myself - but if its freshly felled its full of sap and its going to take at least six months before I'd even think about burning it and more like a year. Also I wouldn't bother wasting space in the woodstore with green wood its not going to rot or decay anytime soon I'd stack it outside and look at it again in six months/dry spell in the summer and see - with a bit of experience you can guage the weight of amount of water in it seasoned logs are much lighter than unseasoned I've even been known to put it to my face you can literally feel the dampness in the timber -
Soldato
I've not used the moisture meter for years, but came across it in the garage and thought I'd take some readings out of interest.
You can usually tell by the weight and sound of the logs when you knock them together
I have three log stores and the medium one round the back of the house is for storing timber to season and usually leave it 22 months at least. I only shifted those to the main log store temporarily to get them off the drive and it's also where my chopping log is. I'll get them split between Xmas and new year and then shift them round the back to the other store
You can usually tell by the weight and sound of the logs when you knock them together
I have three log stores and the medium one round the back of the house is for storing timber to season and usually leave it 22 months at least. I only shifted those to the main log store temporarily to get them off the drive and it's also where my chopping log is. I'll get them split between Xmas and new year and then shift them round the back to the other store
I would love to have an opening behind my stove like that above so the heat fires right through the kitchen as well. Would be perfect! Nice setup.
Missed a 560XP on eBay over the weekend for £260. Actually gutted. I got the notification it was nearing end of auction and was filling my log baskets at the time. Auction finished mins before I looked at my phone and cannot believe it went so cheap.
Missed a 560XP on eBay over the weekend for £260. Actually gutted. I got the notification it was nearing end of auction and was filling my log baskets at the time. Auction finished mins before I looked at my phone and cannot believe it went so cheap.
Soldato
Do not buy sweet chestnut logs -they are crap - It's what they use to make charcoal with - If you turn air supply down they just smoulder rather than give you the swirling flames due to the air wash..
So I have just split three barrows full of split logs again so they are quite thin and they burn better.
Trying to get through this load while it's not so cold out. - I just can't get the heat out of them unless I have some decent wood under them.
So I have just split three barrows full of split logs again so they are quite thin and they burn better.
Trying to get through this load while it's not so cold out. - I just can't get the heat out of them unless I have some decent wood under them.
In spoiler tags is progress pictures on the site I have been working on for a bit this winter.
And what I have gathered for next winters burning.
This is the ridiculous roots from 50/60ft Scots Pines that were felled long ago. Bugger all we can do with these other than stack them on other land and let them dry somewhat to then break down or burn with all the gorse I've ripped out.
Progress on the land. The only thing remaining is that beautiful little oak. It will now be able to grow properly and become quite the feature in the garden in the long run. Can't wait to see what it becomes during my time on this earth with my boys playing in the garden for years to come under their oak.
The lad thought it was good to tip 20 ton of chippings on my chopped and stacked pile. But this is mix of alder, ash, birch, cherry, willow and a tiny amount of oak. It'll move to sheltered storage in a couple of weeks I just have no viable storage for it right now.
Chopped limbs. Mix of rowan, birch, alder, cherry. Plus my helpy helper. Stuff on the very right is my seasoned cherry. All that's left of it!
These two are just some the stuff I am yet to get to. Birch, cherry and some rowan.
And what I have gathered for next winters burning.
This is the ridiculous roots from 50/60ft Scots Pines that were felled long ago. Bugger all we can do with these other than stack them on other land and let them dry somewhat to then break down or burn with all the gorse I've ripped out.
Progress on the land. The only thing remaining is that beautiful little oak. It will now be able to grow properly and become quite the feature in the garden in the long run. Can't wait to see what it becomes during my time on this earth with my boys playing in the garden for years to come under their oak.
The lad thought it was good to tip 20 ton of chippings on my chopped and stacked pile. But this is mix of alder, ash, birch, cherry, willow and a tiny amount of oak. It'll move to sheltered storage in a couple of weeks I just have no viable storage for it right now.
Chopped limbs. Mix of rowan, birch, alder, cherry. Plus my helpy helper. Stuff on the very right is my seasoned cherry. All that's left of it!
These two are just some the stuff I am yet to get to. Birch, cherry and some rowan.
Soldato
Very nice mate 
Soldato
I can remember the day when I used to just burn those bits on site as wood was so easy to come by and mostly free -now every bit counts.
Ahh - the good old days of mid 80's
Ahh - the good old days of mid 80's
Soldato
Forgot to post up on this then came across the pics on my phone.
Last month we had a tree surgeon round to take out 10 or so stumps :
Before
After
Before
After
Before
After:
Very impressed, it's made a huge difference to the whole look of the garden and will mean we can actually start to do something with the borders
Last month we had a tree surgeon round to take out 10 or so stumps :
Before
After
Before
After
Before
After:
Very impressed, it's made a huge difference to the whole look of the garden and will mean we can actually start to do something with the borders
Soldato
For anyone like myself who’s working through a number of old wood piles left by the previous owner, don’t be too hasty when condemning soggy and/or spongy wood to a trip to your local recycling centre.
If wood retains enough strength to split without exploding into a cloud of wet splinters, it can be dried and burnt.
It’s not going to give off as many BTUs as properly seasoned firewood and you’ll need to run the vents a little more open than usual, but it will give off enough heat to make it worth collecting.
If wood retains enough strength to split without exploding into a cloud of wet splinters, it can be dried and burnt.
It’s not going to give off as many BTUs as properly seasoned firewood and you’ll need to run the vents a little more open than usual, but it will give off enough heat to make it worth collecting.
Soldato
Added a few tools to the collection today
Small Fiskas axe (on sale in B&Q) for kindling and a small sledgehammer to use with my wood grenade on some freshly cut rounds
Against my existing x27
Small Fiskas axe (on sale in B&Q) for kindling and a small sledgehammer to use with my wood grenade on some freshly cut rounds
Against my existing x27