Caporegime
Opps
Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao May 2 MGM Grand Las Vegas
- Thread starter ElliottJames
- Start date
Soldato
For the average joe it's probably fair to say that anything short of 'fight till one of them can't stand up' is a bit of a disappointment though 
Think perhaps the ref could have been a little more assertive in stopping Mayweather from bundling up Pacquiao which might have made the fight a little more entertaining, but that's all part of the game - Mayweather was not only technically outstanding but smart enough to just skirt the rules enough to tweak the match in his favour - fair play really!
Think perhaps the ref could have been a little more assertive in stopping Mayweather from bundling up Pacquiao which might have made the fight a little more entertaining, but that's all part of the game - Mayweather was not only technically outstanding but smart enough to just skirt the rules enough to tweak the match in his favour - fair play really!
Soldato
Mayweather isn't necessarily popular because of his entertainment value, it's his pure skill which is mesmerising, but not particularly exciting to casual watchers. Boxing fans love a good slug fest as much as the next guy!
Caporegime
Would someone like to explain this "running away" crap people always spout.
You can't run away in a ring, if the guy can't catch, corner or pressure you then it's your own fault for thinking he's just going to stand toe to toe with you in the middle of the ring.
You picked the wrong fight if you stayed up expecting a KO.
You can't run away in a ring, if the guy can't catch, corner or pressure you then it's your own fault for thinking he's just going to stand toe to toe with you in the middle of the ring.
You picked the wrong fight if you stayed up expecting a KO.
Soldato
Mayweather gets into his house tonight and emptys his pockets, keys, phone, money , Pacquiao job done
Man of Honour
I wonder what would happen if Mayweather fought Mayweather, would they stand in the middle not doing anything as they both wait for something to counter?
It would certainly make for interesting viewing but only if it was free.
Caporegime
- Joined
- 18 Oct 2002
- Posts
- 33,188
Pretty much, to be honest I think there were three rounds you could maybe consider close and I think you'd probably give Pacman 1 or 2 of them because maybe he's earned not being completely embarrassed on the score cards... I feel that two of the judges may have factored that in with their scores.
As with most sports, you really need people at a similar level for a good contest, when one guy utterly outclasses the other you get such a one sided fight/game/match/whatever.
Still disappointed Pacman didn't make more of it. Other fighters who were equally outclassed by Mayweather still managed to make a much better fight. Pacman just got smacked and became utterly scared to go at him. Other fighters just accepted they'd get hit and ploughed in anyway which frankly is what most people expected pacman to do. As said, disappointed he didn't do that really at all and disappointed in his post fight reaction, saying he thought he won and blaming Mayweather for you know, not standing there just to be hit as apparently Pacman thought he should have done.
Permabanned
A boxer will see that fight as pure brilliance, the technical display from Floyd was out of this world, true brilliance. He made an explosive brilliant fighter look like he does not know how to box.
Soldato
Yeah but I'm sure Mayweather took this fight extra seriously, you could see how hard he was concentrating on tracking Pacquiao. Perfect example of staying focussed and sticking to a 'game plan'.
Exactly, it should hardly have been a surprise to Pacquiao that he didn't stand in the corner and bang. Also I think Pacquiao would have been more cautious anyway, knowing how lethal Mayweather is on the counter, and that he has enough power to knock him out, especially as Pacquiao is prone to getting KO'd on a counter as per Marquez did to him.
Also I don't know why people are suggesting he should fight Golovkin, he'd put him away like he did Alvarez.
Last edited:
Caporegime
- Joined
- 18 Oct 2002
- Posts
- 33,188
Yup, the running away thing is hilarious. The thing I noticed was even when on the ropes Pacman tended to stay a decent distant back then he'd lunge in, that gave Mayweather the chance to suddenly jink sideways and get away. Pacman didn't need to lunge in like that, he should have gone in slowly and been hitting from the sides to prevent him moving to his side SO easily.
Mayweather just stood there multiple times covered up and took what Pacman had, Pacman was putting multiple weaker fights into his arms and gloves, his technique in those situations was awful. he didn't get a glove between Mayweather's arms, into his face nor even go to work on his ribs, he just wasted those opportunities completely.
Last edited:
Soldato
Another textbook performance by Mayweather, started off a lot faster than I expected, he was showing Manny the straight right from round 1 and from there on he just controlled the fight. Technically a phenomenal boxer, takes next to no punishment at all. He's been saying for a while now he wants out of the sport, and from his interview it seems like he just wants his last fight over with in September.
Associate
My favourite move was Mayweather's headlock, does he score points for those?
I will admit I am not the biggest boxing fan anymore, but I watched a lot in my younger days. Must consult the ole' rule book, also to look up points scoring as well (not that it was close, just me not remembering)
Fight was what I was expecting, won my bet at least.
I will admit I am not the biggest boxing fan anymore, but I watched a lot in my younger days. Must consult the ole' rule book, also to look up points scoring as well (not that it was close, just me not remembering)
Fight was what I was expecting, won my bet at least.
Suspended
Oh FFS. The result I expected, but not the one I wanted.
Associate
I made pancakes to cheer myself up. It's morning anyway haha
Soldato
I'm on a night shift and lol'ing at all the 'never watched boxing before, dis gun b good...' people who stayed up all day and night and are now moaning about what a waste of time it was.
Like someone said on FB, there is the difference between sport fighting and real fighting. Sport fighting has rules and rewards points based on set criteria. Like any sport, if you use a gameplan that exploits those rules to your advantage, you can win in the sport even if you wouldn't in a non-sport context and Mayweather has that down to a tee.
Like someone said on FB, there is the difference between sport fighting and real fighting. Sport fighting has rules and rewards points based on set criteria. Like any sport, if you use a gameplan that exploits those rules to your advantage, you can win in the sport even if you wouldn't in a non-sport context and Mayweather has that down to a tee.
Caporegime
- Joined
- 18 Oct 2002
- Posts
- 33,188
So many times people see a headlock and blame the guy who puts his arm around the head... it's usually the guy ducking that low who is effectively causing the headlock, not the other way around. When one boxer ducks stupidly low and effectively has their shoulder in your ribs, you wrap them up, in that position that means holding his head otherwise as you let him up you're going to take an uppercut to the chin.
The reason to hold his head is to prevent an awkward uppercut and have the ref get the fighters to break without that potential punch. Pacman was unable to fight his way inside at all, so he was lunging in low and fast and trying to get into that position and hoping he'd get the chance to stand up and exchange some blows from the inside. It's 'crude' boxing at best and deserves the treatment it received from Mayweather. Pacman had no answers and no real plan, he was desperate to avoid the counter punch so was doing things such as a weak jab that normally missed then rushing in low. 99% of boxers would hold the opponents head if they were doing that all fight, including Pacman.
If Pacman kept his head up there would have been no headlocks, is was Pacman avoiding and causing the problem. Other holding, some of it was Pacman, some of it was Mayweather.
Mayweather threw 435 punches and lnaded 148, Pacman threw 429 and landed 81.
If Pacman had thrown more, Mayweather would have throw more as well.
Holding is a problem when one guy is throwing a massive number of punches and the other guy isn't, the guy not throwing holds to prevent being hit.
Mayweather was significantly out punching Pacman... he had no reason to hold intentionally or constantly. I say significantly outpunching because, when Mayweather decided to stand and cover Pacman probably got a significant portion of his hits in those exchanges, there was only 4-5 of them in the whole fight. Pacman was landing almost nothing outside of those few exchanges while Mayweather was landing all fight long.
Last edited:
Man of Honour
Nice shot...
As I said I hoped Pac wouldn't win because as a boxer his not in the same league as Mayweather. The perfect defensive boxer. Nothing in the rules says you have to stand and trade, he is free to enjoy his money with his faculties in tact. While 'warriors' like Nigel Benn struggle to speak.
Yep people can moan about Mayweather but it's not like Pac did much himself. Much of the crying about mayweather being boring is because such a popular guy lost.
Funnily enough there's far more to boxing than just a KO.
Associate
I can only imagine it happened then as Pacman was swinging for the fences in the corner and getting his head under Mayweather.
I liked the time he held him after the headlock just the side of his head and threw a punch almost holding him in place. Should have done that more if he was not trying to hold onto him.