Football - John Terry's red card fiasco...

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nikebee said:
I think most of the outbursts have come from the fact that Terry has basically got away free from this because the FA can't downgrade that red to a yellow.
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Surely its a fact that as the "tackle" itself was worthy of a card (albe it a yellow) the FA shouldnt have done anything and left it at a straight red
 
FrankJH said:
Surely its a fact that as the "tackle" itself was worthy of a card (albe it a yellow) the FA shouldnt have done anything and left it at a straight red
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Could they have reduced his ban from 3 games to 1 though? If they are unable to change a straight red into a yellow, I doubt they can.

A 3 match ban for that challenge would have been completely ridiculous,
 
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FrankJH said:
Surely its a fact that as the "tackle" itself was worthy of a card (albe it a yellow) the FA shouldnt have done anything and left it at a straight red
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Why? Terry getting a red card and missing 3 games is more wrong than getting away with no card at all. You also have to remember that Chelsea and Terry have already been wrongly punished by having to play the end of the game with 10 men, which imo is worse than Terry just getting a booking.
 
I'm a Man United fan, and whilst I would have loved to have seen Terry suspended for the w-end, it would have been grossly unfair.

It was certainly a yellow, but no way was it a red and a 3 match ban.
 
I haven't seen the challenge, but I would be prepared to bet that if Vidic had done the same thing, the card would have stayed.

And whilst Vidic deserved to go, how Carragher could get away with doing the same thing several times without punishment is beyond me.
 
What disgusts me is the back-up the FA has given the referee. The referee refused to deowngrade the red card to the yellow card as even after seeing the video footage he was happy that he gave John Terry a red card. Personally I believe that should have been the end of it as far as the referee is concerned.

Instead they have demoted the referee to a League 2 game this weekend, this is very unfair for backing up referees, and Hackett back up his referees with decisions like this, not punish them.
 
Even when it's so very obviously the wrong decision? There's backing the refs, and then there's doing nothing while the ref gets the decision disastrously wrong not just during the game, but also after when he has the benefit of a replay.

Any ref giving a straight red for that challenge is not applying the rules correctly, I don't expect them to be given a pat on the back for their efforts.
 
Tute said:
I haven't seen the challenge, but I would be prepared to bet that if Vidic had done the same thing, the card would have stayed.

And whilst Vidic deserved to go, how Carragher could get away with doing the same thing several times without punishment is beyond me.
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LOL :D

Vidic's first challenge denied a clearer goalscoring opportunity than Terry's and he only got a yellow, and Vidic's 2nd challenge could have quite easily been considered serious foul play which is what Terry got sent off for (for some reason).

Not sure what you mean about Carra. Seems like you're clutching at straws (as was Fergie in his post-match interview) because Carra made no challenge anything like either of Vidic's bookings.

Edit: Tute = Fergie? ;)
 
load of **** tbh, they change naff things like red cards for chelsea but never ball crossing the line decisions etc. which are much more important.

Either everything or nothing tbh, ban should have stood, not that I think it was a red card or anything.
 
BaZ87 said:
LOL :D

Vidic's first challenge denied a clearer goalscoring opportunity than Terry's and he only got a yellow, and Vidic's 2nd challenge could have quite easily been considered serious foul play which is what Terry got sent off for (for some reason).

Not sure what you mean about Carra. Seems like you're clutching at straws (as was Fergie in his post-match interview) because Carra made no challenge anything like either of Vidic's bookings.

Edit: Tute = Fergie? ;)
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I agree that Vidic should have gone overall. My point is that no matter how you and others try to deny it, the FA do give Chelsea an easier ride.

And Carra spent the whole afternoon flying in with arms up, rarely getting punished for it.

And your last line just makes you look like a troll. :)
 
Tute said:
I agree that Vidic should have gone overall. My point is that no matter how you and others try to deny it, the FA do give Chelsea an easier ride.

And Carra spent the whole afternoon flying in with arms up, rarely getting punished for it.

And your last line just makes you look like a troll. :)
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My last line was a joke because both your points were identical (and imo equally as wrong) to Fergies, lighten up.

Carra didn't go flying in with his arms and Chelsea aren't getting preferential treatment.
 
wedgie said:
Even when it's so very obviously the wrong decision? There's backing the refs, and then there's doing nothing while the ref gets the decision disastrously wrong not just during the game, but also after when he has the benefit of a replay.

Any ref giving a straight red for that challenge is not applying the rules correctly, I don't expect them to be given a pat on the back for their efforts.
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Tell me if I'm wrong, but if you bring down a player, and there's no team mates between you and the goal keeper it's an automatic red card isn't it? Terry was very close to doing this wasn't he...?

And once again, let's remember Terry cheated by cynically bringing down a player because he was about to pass him, and this was of enough concern to Terry that his broke the rules and wrestled him to the ground... If he suffered with a yellow card, red card, or no TV for the night, this sort of 'game play' makes a bit of a mockery of the game... And it won't stop until it's properly punished, rather than ignoring it...
 
I want to know , why does Alex Ferguson has to get involved , whats it got do with him anyway , maybe he should look after his own players ?

I will laugh if John Terry scores on saturday :D
 
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BaZ87 said:
Why? Terry getting a red card and missing 3 games is more wrong than getting away with no card at all. You also have to remember that Chelsea and Terry have already been wrongly punished by having to play the end of the game with 10 men, which imo is worse than Terry just getting a booking.
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at 3-0 or 4-0 no it matters not for that game imo

Im sure there is still a rule saying that if the event is worth a card, the FA wont recind it even if it is a red when its only worth a yellow

Stop talking about "clear goal scoring opportunity" its completely wrong, he went for the man and not the ball that is a clear red card and always should be (after all I have been watching Scholes's style of tackling for donkeys years :))

(yes Vidic should have been shown a red, I have no arguement with that at all)
 
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