Forgot how bad job searching was :(

Yeah attending job interviews is funny. You have to prepare your suitcase with nicely ironed suit :D along with all the notes that you would require. Also not forgetting that job interviews cost a lot of money which includes train fares and hotel room booking which at least provides some confort;).
During interview I haven't been asked the dreaded question yet:'Where do you see yourself in 5 years time?'. Lol. Who knows what you will be doing in 5 years time and the company could actually end up being closed.

I remember once during the interview, one of the senior manager asked about the dollar rate and how will it affect there business as it was sliding down at that time. Now we as candidates are expected to have clear communication; but he spoke so poorly and instead of pronouncing 'dollar' he ended up pronouncing it as 'dallas' lol:D.

His question was like this:' As you know that we operate in Dallas (Dollar) aswell; how it will impact our business?' I thought he meant that they also have business premises in Dallas,Texas. Upon requesting him to repeat the question, he finally said it in a clear voice lol.

Also at the end of the interview when it was my turn to ask about the company, I was rudely abrupted by the second manager who said it was lunch time! lol:D
 
Infam0us said:
I think the experience would help you on your CV :) Take the chance now while you still can afford to!
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Wont it look like I'm a total retarded failure if I don't get offered a position?

or is this the new way employers get a months work out of you for free, then move on to the next work trialist?
 
Keep with it guys, and definately if you are having trouble finding work then as awful as it sounds try applying to work for a company temporarily for unpaid work experience.

My wife had an application for some unpaid work experience from a woman in a field totally unrelated to her experience but because it was what she really wanted to get into and showed great interest in it, they gave her a chance. She proved herself and they quickly employed her as they thought she was excellent.

As a side note, I was made redundant just over 3 months ago and have applied for quite a lot of jobs in those 3 months and have just been told I have a job on a years contract. Woohoo !!

Good luck with it guys :)
 
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As a side note, I was made redundant just over 3 months ago and have applied for quite a lot of jobs in those 3 months and have just been told I have a job on a years contract. Woohoo !!
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Grats :) Cant imagine being made redundant and having to go home and tell the family.
 
SMN said:
Its all about experience chaps. Try looking for internships etc if they are possible?

Recruitment agencies are laughable with the way they use search filters on all CV's and then spam emails out.

I get offers all the time for C++ developer roles in Manchester, just because I had the word C++ once on my CV and the word Manchester in there. In fact i'm a network eng in Reading, but 0/2 aint bad :)
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I did a 2 month internship one summer at uni, doesn't seem to have helped me yet... I now can't get any others because they are all designed for people still in education so as I graduated last year I don't count any more. :(

As for C++ developer I get emails about that all the time too, however the closest thing to computers on my CV are knowledge of MS Office... Just seems another one of them that goes with "sales executive" and "marketing consultant"...

WingZero30 said:
In majority of cases the minimim I have seen is mainly 2+ years experience as mentioned in my previous post. If you go down the ladder to the lowest level you come to entry level positions which from experience aren't any available or well may be very very few.
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Exactly the same here. I'm essentially applying for the bottom of the bottom and still having trouble with experience.

The two job interviews I got in the last year were for mudlogger positions, pretty much the bottom rung in the area I want to work in (essentially you sieve mud, find bits of rock and go "sandstone", "limestone" on a Rig for £12k a year). First interview gave no feedback even when I asked, second interview rang and said I didn't get the job because I didn't have enough experience...
 
It seems in simplest terms that there is a huge mismatch between job requirements which are ridiculous anyway and academic qualifications which for most part seem irrelevant from employers perspective apart from few jobs. The academic institutions, companies and the government must have a nationwide collaboration to ensure people especially graduates are given wider chance. But obviously no one is gonna listen and hence the perpetuality of job market's patheticness.

I just feel sorry for the younger uni students who are being kept in the dark about jobs after their graduation. Sure some graduates will get jobs immediately while most gonna end up struggling for anything viable. Also the cost of living has increased a lot and I sometimes wonder how people with families on a salary of £10,000 are surviving considering you need especially atleast £20,000 in London to have some confortable living but that £20,000 comes with the tag of minimum 2+ years experience. So then we are back to square one in job hunting.
 
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redeye_uk said:
Grats :) Cant imagine being made redundant and having to go home and tell the family.
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Thanks :) Its not a nice feeling being made redundant especially as I had been working there for over 9 years and you get to know everyone and although you may not be personal friends, you still like seeing them day to day.

Luckily for me my pay off has kept me going so I havent had any money problems and my wife earns a very good wage which we could live off easily on its own but yes, I can appreciate that some arent so lucky and feel really bad for it would be very worrying. Unfortunately quite a few that were made redundant at the same time as me werent so lucky :(
 
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Hey, at least you *have* a family to go back to :p spare a thought for those that don't (I know I do, that's partly why I chose this line of volunteering). Empathy is a wonderful thing...
 
It certainly is so good luck man!

For me pita of it all and all the effort has now paid off because the 3 month contract position I started 3 months ago has now become permanent and my job title is the same as my manager. We are the only 2 SysAdmins in the company (for the UK) as well so I guess it was going this route anyway :p

Now to plan the future!

Good luck all :)
 
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It certainly is so good luck man!

For me pita of it all and all the effort has now paid off because the 3 month contract position I started 3 months ago has now become permanent and my job title is the same as my manager. We are the only 2 SysAdmins in the company (for the UK) as well so I guess it was going this route anyway :p

Now to plan the future!

Good luck all :)
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Congratulations, and thanks :)
 
Khaaan! said:
It certainly is so good luck man!

For me pita of it all and all the effort has now paid off because the 3 month contract position I started 3 months ago has now become permanent and my job title is the same as my manager. We are the only 2 SysAdmins in the company (for the UK) as well so I guess it was going this route anyway :p

Now to plan the future!

Good luck all :)
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Sweet, nice it paid off! Sometimes you have to take that gamble, but sometimes you haven't got the choice I suppose too.
 
I think the only employer that let me down was my previous place of work, the initial interview oozed of permanency but a week after 6 months were up (probation period) they said they couldn't keep me on and that the reason was because they initially were planning on letting go another employee (redundancy of position) but because he's been there a year+ and I have not it was easier and cheaper to give me my 1 week notice.

During the final week I spent most of my time training this software tester colleague of mine on how I did my job the last few months and getting him up to speed.

I hate it when companies pull something like that but I think I'm glad because a month later I was in contact with some workmates from there and 4 other people got made redundant due to lack of company funds.
 
i'm in a strange position at the moment which may mean i need to find a new job outside the company, which I am not looking forward to.

I am a service consultant, one of two, who work in a particular team within a large outsourcing company. In the next couple of weeks I will be interviewing for the team leader position. Happy days if I get this as I'm more than ready for the move up the ladder.

However, we have been told that there will only be a single consultant role within the team going forward. If I don't get the promtion then both of us consultants will have to interview for the single consultant role and ultimatly the looser will be made redundant.

it's a nasty situation to be in if I don't get promoted. If that is the case I will start looking for another role and this is where the problem is. I don't want to take another consultant role as I'm pretty much reached the top of this type of role and feel that there is no headroom for me to expand into. However I cannot apply for management roles either because I lack experience. so again catch 22.
 
Oxy said:
Wont it look like I'm a total retarded failure if I don't get offered a position?

or is this the new way employers get a months work out of you for free, then move on to the next work trialist?
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I'm looking at it from my POV. I want to get into Social Work but I can't do the job I want until I get the relevant NVQ's and experience. But no company will hire me until I get that experience so its up to me to get it anyway I can which means doing volunteer work which will then hopefully progress further :)
 
well attended my chat and was very much misled :/ Turns out they want a sales rep for minimum wage, and the first month unpaid. mega lol...

What a joke...
 
Probably done close to 50 applications in the last 8 months and I've had around 5 interviews but no job offers. Looks like I'm going to have to temp/entry level and apply for next year's grad schemes.
 
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