Frankly obscene Ring 42.8% subscription increase

Uther said:
The concern is next year they'll just whack the price up like this again. Ours is under a year old I think so will probably suck it up for now but I'm getting a bit bored of getting constantly fleeced with literally everything.
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That’s why I and many binned them off a few years ago. There are plenty of options without subscription.
 
jaybee said:
Would that not have been better to on 29th February the day before subs go up? Not a trick question. I'm not sure if possible. Surely everyone will do that who wants to keep it. Or can you only do that if on monthly payment plan? Mine renews annually in November.
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Thought I would do it now just in case they decided to stop people doing that and also to stop me forgetting or not being able to get logged in for some reason.
 
Uther said:
The concern is next year they'll just whack the price up like this again. Ours is under a year old I think so will probably suck it up for now but I'm getting a bit bored of getting constantly fleeced with literally everything.
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The issue is right across the board with these new sub services from Disney to Netflix to Spotify they all increase their prices. I don’t mind paying a £1 here or there extra but that increase is a complete joke and in some cases rendering the device now unusable - could it even be seen as false advertisement? A few people I know (and a few here) just assume it’s buy it and that’s it.

Guess we have to ask ourselves is it better to pay £25 and a sub fee or £200 and no sub?

It’s just a hassle trying to get one that will have the software ready to go and be able to do everything with no running sub.
 
Reuben klang said:
Guess we have to ask ourselves is it better to pay £25 and a sub fee or £200 and no sub?
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We would have probably kept the Ring if there was an option to pay a one off to allow me to store images & video locally.

I predict those online selling sites will start to see a rise in Ring equipment soon from those that were either gifted them, or cannot stretch to the new yearly sub.
 
My friend has Ring stuff, I'm sure he'll be happy.
I went the dumb way, normal doorbell and a POE camera recording 24/7 to a 120GB SD card. I don't get notifications, but then I don't have any ongoing costs either. Months of storage too.
 
UberTiger said:
Also, I find it funny people comparing unifi to ring. The cost of the unifi hardware is magnitudes more than the ring stuff. If you buy into unifi you’re already pricing in yeeears worth of an equivalent annual rings subscription, even at £50 a year. Especially if you get even one or two of their incredibly expensive cameras
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I don't think anyone in this thread has compared UniFi to Ring? I mentioned that I had moved over, and that was because I already had the UDM-SE for my gateway, plus their switches and APs for years, so I just needed the camera and a random drive I chucked in. I think I paid £180 for the G4 Doorbell, when I put in the money I got from selling the Ring Doorbell and batteries, plus the subscription savings, it's already paid for itself. I also get local storage, 24/7 recording, I can back the recordings up to my NAS, I can back the movement detections up to iCloud using Scrypted plus other features the Protect system offers. I've since added more cameras. For non-Chinese, non subscription, easy to set up and high quality cameras which integrate well with their network system, I personally don't find them that expensive.
 
If they commit to a statement that the annual sub of £50 will be locked for say 3 years, I'd just carry on paying it. But the way things are going, they might raise it again next year.
 
ChrisD. said:
because I already had the UDM-SE for my gateway, plus their switches and APs for years
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Exactly, you've already dumped a ton of money into an upgraded home network. I guarantee the vast majority of Ring households just have a bog standard wifi home network with an ISP supplied router. For those people, ring doorbells and cameras are incredibly cheap in comparison to the unifi ecosystem (especially when amazon puts on them on sale 2-3 times a year). £50 a year for it to just work will be acceptable to most considering the low cost of entry to the system. Of course on this forum you'll have a much higher percentage of tech savvy people and those who have custom setups. But the truth is, most people will accept to pay £50 a year for the doorbell, or a bit more to include a few extra cameras too.
 
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Until next year when it goes up 42.8% again...Amazon will keep pushing until they find the limit most people are willing to pay.
 
UberTiger said:
Exactly, you've already dumped a ton of money into an upgraded home network. I guarantee the vast majority of Ring households just have a bog standard wifi home network with an ISP supplied router. For those people, ring doorbells and cameras are incredibly cheap in comparison to the unifi ecosystem (especially when amazon puts on them on sale 2-3 times a year). £50 a year for it to just work will be acceptable to most considering the low cost of entry to the system. Of course on this forum you'll have a much higher percentage of tech savvy people and those who have custom setups. But the truth is, most people will accept to pay £50 a year for the doorbell, or a bit more to include a few extra cameras too.
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Judging by my local Facebook group, the exact people you describe are looking at alternatives as they aren't happy with the £50 change a year and unknown future rises.
 
Yep, that's what all these subscription companies know will happen. Netflix stopping the password sharing being the prime example.
 
ChrisD. said:
... I personally don't find them that expensive.
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It's ~£500 (Wifi G4 Pro & Cloud Key+) to get a Unify doorbell put in place, which is fairly steep in comparison even to a Ring with a sub. As you say though, if you're already in the ecosystem and got a load of their products then it's probably a no brainer.

UberTiger said:
£50 a year for it to just work will be acceptable to most considering the low cost of entry to the system.
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Yup, this is where i'm at; it just works so it's worth the money.
If the Eufy my folks have was any good then i would swap but it's pretty bad even for the £40/50 i paid for it (John Lewis were selling them off).
 
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visibleman said:
It's ~£500 (Wifi G4 Pro & Cloud Key+) to get a Unify doorbell put in place, which is fairly steep in comparison even to a Ring with a sub. As you say though, if you're already in the ecosystem and got a load of their products then it's probably a no brainer.
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My point was in response to the cost of an actual camera, not the whole system & camera. It's certainly not for everyone, I was just sharing my reasons. I don't expect a normal UK consumer to suddenly ditch Ring and go out and spend £500 on an alternate system when Reolink or similar are perfectly fine (if you aren't against Chinese systems or Eufy's questionable security that is). I'm sure there's others too.
 
visibleman said:
It's ~£500 (Wifi G4 Pro & Cloud Key+) to get a Unify doorbell put in place, which is fairly steep in comparison even to a Ring with a sub. As you say though, if you're already in the ecosystem and got a load of their products then it's probably a no brainer.
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£500 on even an advanced doorbell still means seeing the same couriers dump and leg it. :) That's crazy pricing. But then... do you pay a sub with it? In a few years, some will have paid £200 for a Ring doorbell outright plus 3 x £50 in annual amazon fees.

EDIT: I thought Ring doorbells used to be like £200 when newer. Seems they are mostly £100 or under now? :O
 
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