Fuel price discussion thread (was ‘chaos’)

[dave28]

1.86 petrol

1.85 diesel

this is odd because not long back petrol was a fair bit cheaper

 

[rodders]

BP ultimate 198.9p this morning, yikes. Last time I looked it was 168.9, a month ago ish maybe

 

[Richie]

It's hitting poorer people worse as poorer people are unable to afford an electric car to reduce costs

I had a look earlier and, within 100 miles of me, the cheapest on Auto trader is £7,500 so switching to elec is just not possible for poorer in people

 

[200sols]

They cannot differentiate between the elec I use in my house and that I use for my car.

They won't need to, a pay per mile system will be in place.

 

[FerretBoy]

It's hitting poorer people worse as poorer people are unable to afford an electric car to reduce costs

I had a look earlier and, within 100 miles of me, the cheapest on Auto trader is £7,500 so switching to elec is just not possible for poorer in people

Completely agree, I was only answering questions, wasn't here to gloat. Fuel prices effect me personally in multiple other ways and will be crippling for some friends and family.

Also I'm under no illusion, with regards to my EV purchase paying for itself, there will need to be a much bigger shift in prices first. I purchased it for its low maintenance and high performance at the price point.

 

[V_R]

Paid 201.9 for VPower this morning.

 

[MagicBoy]

Just charge it at home.

You do realise not everyone can? A significant number.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

I had a look earlier and, within 100 miles of me, the cheapest on Auto trader is £7,500 so switching to elec is just not possible for poorer in people

The same model year Leaf/Zoe would have been under £5k 18 months ago. That’s correct, the same car that is now 18 months older is now 50% more expensive.

They should be nudging under £4K right now if they followed the normal depreciation curve.

Unfortunately demand for EVs has sky rocketed, as such the price has too.

The cheapest Tesla Model 3 now had a waiting list of over a year. When I ordered mine I November 21, I picked it up in December 21 less than 6 weeks later. It’s also had a 10% price hike in that time too.

 

[shifty_uk]

Just charge it at home.

Not everyone can do this as magicboy said. Even getting a charging point setup at my rented offices would be a pain which is the reason I couldn’t get a hybrid last year as it just didnt make sense vs diesel.

The government will need to find a way to tax these charging points when demand for petrol decreases, I’m sure there’s already talks about taxing home charge points independent from your standard leccy bill… If I’m mistaken here then its idea they’ll come up with so enjoy your cheap(er) travel whilst it lasts for the next couple of years.

 

[touch]

The government will need to find a way to tax these charging points when demand for petrol decreases, I’m sure there’s already talks about taxing home charge points independent from your standard leccy bill… If I’m mistaken here then its idea they’ll come up with so enjoy your cheap(er) travel whilst it lasts for the next couple of years.

I don't have a "charge point". I just plug it into the mains. How would they be able to bill that usage independently from my home electric use?

 

[jpaul]

The government will need to find a way to tax these charging points when demand for petrol decreases, I’m sure there’s already talks about taxing home charge points independent from your standard leccy bill… If I’m mistaken here then its idea they’ll come up with so enjoy your cheap(er) travel whilst it lasts for the next couple of years

earlier Motors discussion with the guy with the resto in NZ ... their road usage charge(per km) cuts in for ev's too in 2025 ...$76/1000km for fuels not taxed at pump - UK destiny already mapped out.

 

[MagicBoy]

I don't have a "charge point". I just plug it into the mains. How would they be able to bill that usage independently from my home electric use?

Neither do I, and I can't just plug a car into the mains. That'd mean running a 100m extension cord out of my property and onto the public highway.

 

[Hasnath]

Reading through this thread made me fill up tonight even though i had over half a tank. Thought I'd get some in before the rumoured 10p hike from tomorrow. Was £187.9 for momentum which surprisingly was the same price I paid on Tuesday last week. The week before I'm sure it was around £1.69 or thereabouts.

 

[MissChief]

I think I'm going to fill up tomorrow evening as well, should be around half a tank by then if there is a planned hike as the rumours suggest.

 

[Rroff]

My boss was just telling me his fuel bill (50 mile each way commute)... has increased by £270/m since 2021... I thought mine was bad.

 

[tom_e]

The same model year Leaf/Zoe would have been under £5k 18 months ago. That’s correct, the same car that is now 18 months older is now 50% more expensive.

They should be nudging under £4K right now if they followed the normal depreciation curve.

Unfortunately demand for EVs has sky rocketed, as such the price has too.

The cheapest Tesla Model 3 now had a waiting list of over a year. When I ordered mine I November 21, I picked it up in December 21 less than 6 weeks later. It’s also had a 10% price hike in that time too.

The whole second hand market is upside down right now not just EVs.

I could sell my petrol car I bought nearly 2.5 years ago and have put 32k miles on for only £500 less than what I bought it for. If I wanted to walk into a dealer and buy a similar milage/age one now I'd be looking at £3/4k more than I paid back then.

 

[[TW]Fox]

I'm EV owner so I don't care about the fuel prices

Why do people say this?

 

[adam cool dude]

The same model year Leaf/Zoe would have been under £5k 18 months ago. That’s correct, the same car that is now 18 months older is now 50% more expensive.

They should be nudging under £4K right now if they followed the normal depreciation curve.

Unfortunately demand for EVs has sky rocketed, as such the price has too.

The cheapest Tesla Model 3 now had a waiting list of over a year. When I ordered mine I November 21, I picked it up in December 21 less than 6 weeks later. It’s also had a 10% price hike in that time too.

Best just buy a motorbike and use the car in wet weather.

"I can get 70 mile to the gallon on this hog"

 

[SDK^]

Why do people say this?

The answer is obvious - EV drivers don't put fuel in their cars
My EV charging cost is the same if fuel is £2 a litre or £50 a litre

[Yes we still know there is added cost to all other life essentials as a consequence, but that is a much lower hit to the pocket]

 

[b0rn2sk8]

The whole second hand market is upside down right now not just EVs.

I could sell my petrol car I bought nearly 2.5 years ago and have put 32k miles on for only £500 less than what I bought it for. If I wanted to walk into a dealer and buy a similar milage/age one now I'd be looking at £3/4k more than I paid back then.

While I agree, you are not paying £7,500 for a basic 11 year hold Nissan hatch back with perhaps 65 miles of real world range on its battery pack at that end of the market. The prices are an utter joke for these old BEVs.

The 11 year old diesel hatch I traded in for my Model 3 was worth under £3000 at retail, that would still do over 600 miles on a tank of dinosaur juice without issue or even driving that carefully if you were willing to spend over £100 to fill (60 litre tank).