Fuel price discussion thread (was ‘chaos’)

As if prices at the pump ever fall. They’ve realised people have no choice but to buy it.

They will fall but not back to "normal" levels... It's the same with the energy price levels. What companies do is shoot the price up quickly, everyone gets outraged and shocked and then, when the price lowers, the public are thankful for it even if the price didn't return to anywhere near what it was before...

"At least it's not £1.80/litre anymore" while it reduces to around £1.55 so people think that's ok even though it was £1.40 before it went crazy and the oil price is back down to the same level it was.
 
They will fall but not back to "normal" levels... It's the same with the energy price levels. What companies do is shoot the price up quickly, everyone gets outraged and shocked and then, when the price lowers, the public are thankful for it even if the price didn't return to anywhere near what it was before...

"At least it's not £1.80/litre anymore" while it reduces to around £1.55 so people think that's ok even though it was £1.40 before it went crazy and the oil price is back down to the same level it was.

You need to look at wholesale diesel and gasoline prices.
 
They will fall but not back to "normal" levels... It's the same with the energy price levels. What companies do is shoot the price up quickly, everyone gets outraged and shocked and then, when the price lowers, the public are thankful for it even if the price didn't return to anywhere near what it was before...

"At least it's not £1.80/litre anymore" while it reduces to around £1.55 so people think that's ok even though it was £1.40 before it went crazy and the oil price is back down to the same level it was.

That's exactly the same as what has become of the GPU market. £1200+ GPUs have become the norm from it.
 
People have lost the appetite for protest they’ll moan but do nothing about it.

I remember the fuel refinery blockades back in 2000.

The escalating fuel and energy crisis which is now gripping Britain is already leading to panic buying at pumps and the prospect of fuel rationing.

The current crisis is caused in part by an HGV driver shortage, rather than a lack of fuel itself.

But, for just over a week in September 2000, a committed group of truckers and farmers angry at rising fuel prices brought Britain to its knees.

By blockading refineries, they caused petrol stations to run dry, leading to empty shelves in supermarkets, delays to mail deliveries, schools being shut and the army being put on standby.

The situation was made worse by panic buying, which led to a week's worth of fuel being sold in three days. Truckers also led 'go-slow' protests on the roads which led to huge queues of traffic, including in Central London.

The then Prime Minister Tony Blair's popularity plummeted as he took a tough line by refusing to cut fuel duty, which he had hiked less than two years earlier.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/oth...mber-2000-caused-a-national-crisis/ar-AAOMkQx
 
You need to look at wholesale diesel and gasoline prices.

I'll clarify... Should oil prices reduce to where they were in, say, Nov; the prices at the pump are unlikely to fall back to Nov prices.

Companies sometimes use huge increases to allow less severe increases to be accepted when they eventually lower the price albeit still to a higher level than where it started.
 
I'll clarify... Should oil prices reduce to where they were in, say, Nov; the prices at the pump are unlikely to fall back to Nov prices.

Companies sometimes use huge increases to allow less severe increases to be accepted when they eventually lower the price albeit still to a higher level than where it started.
Again. Why are you looking at oil prices ? We saw covid and fuel prices get near to 100p.
 
Again. Why are you looking at oil prices ? We saw covid and fuel prices get near to 100p.

Because it's the surge in oil prices that has led to high fuel prices on this occasion... Or so everywhere is telling us :confused:

Why do you think it has risen so quickly?
 
3weeks since war started which has obviously cut supply of both oil and oil derived products due to sanctions

If oil and refinery margins go back to nov prices, then fuel prices will too. Refinery margins depend on what are the best products to make from the crude based on market rates. Oil price alone is quite rough to try and directly link to fuel price.
 
I feel pretty fortunate having paid 162.9 for Tesco Momentum 99 near me earlier. Wasn't even that busy so long may that continue round here (Wirral). There's a few of the smaller garages around (who usually put a few pence on top) having diesel at 196/litre :(
Texaco! Cheeky gits!
 
Filled up tonight at 17x.xx I just didn't bother to pay attention beyond the 17... yesterday they had no fuel at all - tonight half the pumps were out of action, petrol being rationed out, but they had diesel without any limits.
 
Legislation with an override of speed limits is one approach .. like the last energy crisis
1974: New speed limit to curb fuel use
British drivers must adhere to reduced speed limits from midnight tonight as the government tries to save fuel.
Speed limits on motorways will remain 70mph (112kph), but on dual carriageways they will become 60mph (96kph), and on all other roads 50mph (80kph).


700M saving then, £7Bn now, albeit, not considering increased consumption
 
Useless and totally unenforceable :cry:

Drivers will naturally slow down when they're hit in the pocket by the high fuel charges. Besides, half of road users barely know the basics of the highway code without trying to implement variations based on a temporary issue.
 
Useless and totally unenforceable :cry:

Drivers will naturally slow down when they're hit in the pocket by the high fuel charges. Besides, half of road users barely know the basics of the highway code without trying to implement variations based on a temporary issue.
Judging by my journeys last weekend that hasn’t happened yet. I was doing 65 on the cruise control and the only things I was passing were the trucks and the occasional coach. Pretty much everyone else was doing 70 or more.
 
looks like for starters they should remove 10% grace on speed cameras for Mways.
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