Fuel up/down again

[Biohazard]

So therefore you'll realise that the retail fuel arms are seperate entities, and it's these entities that people are saying are not really profitable in the way you think they are.

I don't think that garage forecourts themselves are heavily profitable?

Yes, you could hive any part of any business off and look at it on its own.

The truth is still that, there is profit in the UK retail fuel market overall, regardless how small per transaction.

And there certainly is profit in the oils industry.

Anything else is just nonesense.

It's a discussion forum, thats the entire point

I saw a discussion which I wanted to have some involvement in. Just like you did. Thats how forums work, let alone just Motors!

Hmmm, ok.

 

[Biohazard]

You need to remember that despite personal and professional experience within the trade, Biohazard knows better than you.

So there is no profit at all to be made with fuel Janesy?

PLEASE DO TELL

Not got a crappy wee fiesta to be bodging anyway?

 

[DM]

So there is no profit at all to be made with fuel Janesy?

PLEASE DO TELL

Not got a crappy wee fiesta to be bodging anyway?

Sir you go too far, what has the car he drives got to do with it?

 

[Biohazard]

The old saying.

You cannot argue with an idiot. They will simply drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

If your persistence is purely for the lulz, i salute you Biohazard.

If its for real, good grief!

Profit?

Is there any?

 

[Slam62]

Well obviously the oil companies make lots of money, the forecourts don't.

So lets think this through, ok the oil companies are charging a lot for the oil they sell to the forecourts.

This works well (for the oil companies) they don't care about the forecourts they own, because they make money on the fuel supply.
It puts ever more pressure on independent forecourts and they shut reducing competition. That is all.


But don't expect fuel to get cheaper.

 

[Biohazard]

Sir you go too far, what has the car he drives got to do with it?

From an argument a very long time ago you weren't around to witness, so can't really comment on?

It was a very similar arguement around 'who to listen to'.

 

[Janesy B]

So there is no profit at all to be made with fuel Janesy?

PLEASE DO TELL

Not got a crappy wee fiesta to be bodging anyway?

Of course there is, lots of it but it completely pails into insignificance when you take into consideration the amount creamed off in duty and VAT. Getting mad at shell because they make 10p or whatever profit at the forecourt is silly when you think of the amount taken by the government.

Biohazard, there's no need to patronise me or anyone else in the forum. I am 23 not 13, I'll afford you some respect if you can leave out the patronising digs and petty insults.

 

[[TW]Fox]

I don't think that garage forecourts themselves are heavily profitable?

There we go then. We are all agreed. Because thats what everyones point was in the first place - that garage forecourts dont make loads of money, and many of them are not even owned by oil majors anyway, even some of the ones branded as such!

Hugs all round.

The fact that pulling black stuff out the ground and flogging it on the NYMEX futures exchange is hugely profitable isn't really relevant. As an aside, the actual cost of raw crude in a litre of fuel is very small in percentage terms.

One thing, though, is very big in percentage terms. I think it's called tax, and tax on a tax.

 

[Kenai]

So there is no profit at all to be made with fuel Janesy?

PLEASE DO TELL

Not got a crappy wee fiesta to be bodging anyway?

You clearly know you've barely got a leg to stand on any more, you just cannot deflect any points rationally without having to try and insult people can you?

Here's a challenge for you, go the next 25 posts in this thread without calling someone a name rather than actually responding to the argument.

 

[Biohazard]

You clearly know you've barely got a leg to stand on any more, you just cannot deflect any points rationally without having to try and insult people can you?

Here's a challenge for you, go the next 25 posts in this thread without calling someone a name rather than actually responding to the argument.

You can sit in the corner with mark as well, it was a joke that went right over your morality inspector head.

Go find someone else to follow.

 

[Sparky]

Petrol gone up again?

 

[Kenai]

You can sit in the corner with mark as well, it was a joke that went right over your morality inspector head.

Go find someone else to follow.

That doesn't change the fact that you've barely been able to construct a single half decent response in the entire discussion though does it?

You can flap and bluster and hurl the insults all you like, it's just words on a screen at the end of the day and you're the one who has come out of all this looking an ill informed fool.

 

[Biohazard]

There we go then. We are all agreed. Because thats what everyones point was in the first place - that garage forecourts dont make loads of money, and many of them are not even owned by oil majors anyway, even some of the ones branded as such!

Hugs all round.

That was not what he said.

He said no profit.

Big difference between no profit or loss and marginal profit.

In fact, a massive difference.

So no hugs thanks.

The fact that pulling black stuff out the ground and flogging it on the NYMEX futures exchange is hugely profitable isn't really relevant. As an aside, the actual cost of raw crude in a litre of fuel is very small in percentage terms.

It isn't really, you look at their operations over all.

Again, if it suits you to take one part of the business in isolation and go 'look, little profits that's fine.'

You can't then refuse to parcel it all back together and refuse to accept the overall group position, or activities.

Oil is very very profitable, that's all I was trying to get at.

People making out petrolium companies are 'back against the wall' etc are somewhat dissengenious.

One thing, though, is very big in percentage terms. I think it's called tax, and tax on a tax.

Tax tax tax.

Yes, we're going to have a fun year.

 

[Slam62]

Petrol gone up again?

I believe so

 

[Biohazard]

That doesn't change the fact that you've barely been able to construct a single half decent response in the entire discussion though does it?

You can flap and bluster and hurl the insults all you like, it's just words on a screen at the end of the day and you're the one who has come out of all this looking an ill informed fool.

As I said, go find another tree to bark up your boringly repetative, and you're not even adding to the conversation... just following me around like a slightly impressionable young female.

In other words, do one.

 

[Kenai]

DO ONE MATE, fantastic debating skills

 

[Biohazard]

Petrol gone up again?

It has round here.

And if you think you have high prices here, think of the people staying in the far flung places.

Sometimes as much as 0.20p higher than the UK average pump price.

Ouch.

 

[Biohazard]

DO ONE MATE, fantastic debating skills

As I said, we aren't debating.

You're following me around like a pedo, so unless you have something to debate other than myself (which isn't the discussion)

Yes, **** off.

 

[Dolph]

Wow, it's just like speaker's corner in here, with the same individual trashing the debate and throwing insults and accusations at anyone who disagrees with him...

 

[Janesy B]

If you want to play the patronising game, I will play along and post a nice little picture for you.

Assuming fuel is 119.9p per litre, this is the breakdown in cost:

The actual cost of the product is less than a branded bottle of water, yes the stuff that falls out of the sky, the other 75p is pure tax and pure robbery. Get mad at the government, not the Sri Lankan man running your local Esso who has to sell Razzle, readers wives and ginsters to help prop up his business.