Fuel up/down again

Biohazard · 3 Jan 2011 at 17:50

Kenai said:
Sorry!

I want you apologise for your appalling language and behaviour in this thread

Ok sorry dad.

Kenai · 3 Jan 2011 at 17:51

There's a good lad

Pete19s · 3 Jan 2011 at 17:58

Ello ello ello, whats gone on here then?

I thought that MrMoonX may have gone on some Tory bashing rant when I saw how many more post since my last visit in here.

[TW]Fox · 3 Jan 2011 at 18:03

Biohazard said:
The market goes beyond just the forecourt.

Where else is the RETAIL petroleum market?

The clue is 'Retail' by the way. It has specific meaning.

Janesy B · 3 Jan 2011 at 18:21

Biohazard said:
What has a song and dance got to do with community contribution?

I also suggest you learn to count Janesy.

It was the last time I looked, it still is neigh on double. Community contribution is not calling everyone idiots and morons when you disagree with them.

Biohazard said:
He said UK retail petroleum market, not profit on the forecourt.

You can't comment on the relevence of my comment, you can't even count let alone discern tone so why should I listen to any more of your nonesense?

Retail petroleum, where else do you buy petroleum other than a forecourt?

Biohazard said:
I would say there was relevence Janesy.

Because in his tone, I felt there was a defence of the oil majors.

I was suggesting that this was misplaced.

You and everyone by the looks of it completely missed my point etc.

There was no defence, in this context anyway. My point was that although they are a small part of the problem whereas the taxation/duty is the main reason why it's so expensive so getting mad at oil companies in this instance is a waste of time. I thought you would love the chance to have a pop at the Tories?

Oh and I saw this Chinese proverb somewhere, it reminded me of you:

To talk much and arrive nowhere is the same as climbing a tree to catch a fish

Jonnycoupe · 3 Jan 2011 at 18:28

Janesy B said:
Retail petroleum, where else do you buy petroleum other than a forecourt?

Boots, in a tub

Biohazard · 3 Jan 2011 at 18:36

[TW]Fox;18134285 said:
Where else is the RETAIL petroleum market?

The clue is 'Retail' by the way. It has specific meaning.

I'll tell you what there isn't, and that is there is not enough gyrating women in the RETAIL petroleum market.

I was merely stressing the minor point to him that it wasn't just the station, but the whole business setup we were 'discussing'. That would include the infrastructure, market interactions etc.

Don't worry about it, it isn't important.

Sparky · 3 Jan 2011 at 18:41

Slightly off topic well, thinking about it in this thread nothing is off topic! Am i right in thinking the taxation level on LPG is the same as petrol pro rata?

[TW]Fox · 3 Jan 2011 at 18:42

Biohazard said:
I was merely stressing the minor point to him that it wasn't just the station, but the whole business setup we were 'discussing'.

You were discussing. On your own. Several pages after you threw personal attacks at everyone.

Everyone else has been discussing the forecourts since the very beginning

Biohazard · 3 Jan 2011 at 18:45

Janesy B said:
It was the last time I looked, it still is neigh on double. Community contribution is not calling everyone idiots and morons when you disagree with them.

You can have it Janesy, I missunderstood you.

Still don't think you can count though, really, can you?

(idicates joke)

Janesy B said:
Retail petroleum, where else do you buy petroleum other than a forecourt?

I bought some off the shelf the other day, next to outside gear section aisle in asda .

Listed as 'premium paraffin'.

Main ingredient, kerosene.

If you really want, I can do a photo of me posing with said 4 ltr bottle of petrol (for cleaning) and loaf of bread. I'd be happy to do so.

Janesy B said:
There was no defence, in this context anyway. My point was that although they are a small part of the problem whereas the taxation/duty is the main reason why it's so expensive so getting mad at oil companies in this instance is a waste of time. I thought you would love the chance to have a pop at the Tories?

That's all great, but I didn't get 'mad at an oil company'. I'll let the green protesters etc get on with that. I was merely saying to the guy trying to almost stick up for them as a collective business, that it isn't exactly a thread bear existance they are peating out for themself overall.

Janesy B said:
Oh and I saw this Chinese proverb somewhere, it reminded me of you:

Did you get it in a fortune cookie?

I like your chinese proverb greatly

Jono8 · 3 Jan 2011 at 18:46

Cool thread

Biohazard · 3 Jan 2011 at 18:47

[TW]Fox;18134666 said:
You were discussing. On your own. Several pages after you threw personal attacks at everyone.

Everyone else has been discussing the forecourts since the very beginning

As I said, a lot of missunderstandings.

I wasn't even talking about the profitability of any section of their business, I was merely pointing out to JLS or whatever that, while yes as an already presumed every knows the government take the mick, but don't think the oild companies are doing it for the philanthropism joy either.

Janesy B · 3 Jan 2011 at 18:52

CS||nuTs said:
Is that pink Fiesta still alive Janesy?

Yup, old Fords never die

Sparky · 3 Jan 2011 at 18:56

Blimey,Nice one.

233 · 3 Jan 2011 at 18:56

getting back slightly towards on topic, how much of an effect is this going to have on people?

as previously moaned abot every 10p a litre rise in fuel cost works out at £1100 a year onto my running costs for my business. considering in the last 12 months fuels jumped over 20p a litre that works out at my profits being 2grand less this year before i even consider reduced trade and any other factors.

2 grand increase in my fuel bill for a couple of taxis, makes you wonder just how much of an increase the larger haulier companies are suffering with?

the only thing i can see coming out of this is a lot of people in the transport/haulage business taking the risk and running their vehicles on red diesel

Sparky · 3 Jan 2011 at 18:57

News this morning said the average motorist will pay as extra £123 a year at the pump.

233 · 3 Jan 2011 at 19:01

CS||nuTs said:
News this morning said the average motorist will pay as extra £123 a year at the pump.

i guess thats just with this months rises ?

i'm working on a 20p/litre rise since last year

say average Joe does 15000 miles a year at 40mpg i work that out to £170 a year based on the prices from a year ago to now

so thats a nigh on £300 a year increase in 2 years for the average person

221325

Simon · 3 Jan 2011 at 19:01

Petroleum is oil, so yes there is a lot of non forecourt sales.

'petrol' is gasoline.

[TW]Fox · 3 Jan 2011 at 19:02

Simon said:
Petroleum is oil, so yes there is a lot of non forecourt sales.

'petrol' is gasoline.

'Retail Petroleum', however, is the forecourt market. ie, people in this thread talking about the 'Retail Petroleum Market' are referring to the petrol station down the road.

Sparky · 3 Jan 2011 at 19:04

Foxtrot26 said:
i guess thats just with this months rises ?

i'm working on a 20p/litre rise since last year

say average Joe does 15000 miles a year at 40mpg i work that out to £170 a year based on the prices from a year ago to now so thats a nigh on £300 a year increase in 2 years for the average person

221325

Do you get to claim back the VAT?