Fuel up/down again

zetec452 · 4 Jan 2011 at 11:45

Happy said:
http://www.fuelly.com/

Thanks.

Jonnycoupe · 4 Jan 2011 at 11:49

Sp00n said:
Or you press the throttle the same and go faster.

I was trying to draw comparison to what might be happening when sat at 70mph on the motorway and why the example is relevant to different fuel usage.

Afterall it would be Captain obvious to say at the same, i dont know, 25% throttle in cold you do 71.5mph and suprisingly use more fuel than at 70mph.

Warm up time takes a hit on average mpgs plus heater blowers and lights. Also the fuel more likely to cling to the colder intake manifold etc and not combust.... covered in another thread recently. Engines are more efficient hotter. They only make more power when colder ais they can comsume more air and fuel, that is not the same as being more efficient with the fuel they do have.

JRS · 4 Jan 2011 at 12:14

Biohazard said:
I was merely pointing out to JLS or whatever

Honestly....it's three letters. How come some of you on this forum have that much trouble with my handle on here?

Oh, and as for "or whatever"....my parents gave me those initials, I don't like the implied slight on their choice. So in your own vernacular - 'do one', you obnoxious, pig-ignorant, self-impressed ****.

Biohazard said:
that while yes as an already presumed every knows the government take the mick, but don't think the oild companies are doing it for the philanthropism joy either.

And where did I say that they were? I just pointed out that the petroleum companies are a business, and are out to make lots of money from consumers - they're supposed to be making vast piles of money from consumers in fact. If they don't make money, then what's the point of them? And given that, why rage about them making money?

Locky · 4 Jan 2011 at 12:40

Derv has gone from 126.9 last night, to 1.31.9 here, load of bull**** tbh.

James_200sx · 4 Jan 2011 at 12:57

Everything except my wages are going up.

Simon · 4 Jan 2011 at 13:05

JRS said:
And where did I say that they were? I just pointed out that the petroleum companies are a business, and are out to make lots of money from consumers - they're supposed to be making vast piles of money from consumers in fact. If they don't make money, then what's the point of them? And given that, why rage about them making money?

Fuel is the outlet of the Fuel supply chain that allows oil companies to make money on the input (Crude oil).

If there was no tax on fuel the oil companies would make the same money but without any accusations of being greedy.

EvilDreams · 4 Jan 2011 at 16:04

I don't know if this site has been posted:

http://www.speedlimit.org.uk/petrolprices.html

I find it quite useful for reference....for example under Labour the price of petrol almost doubled.

Jez · 4 Jan 2011 at 16:16

EvilDreams said:
I don't know if this site has been posted:

http://www.speedlimit.org.uk/petrolprices.html

I find it quite useful for reference....for example under Labour the price of petrol almost doubled.

It also shows that the RPI linked price has actually been fairly favourable since 1983. Nothing like as bad as people make out anyhow! Its actually been cheaper than then for years until recently.

Antipasti · 4 Jan 2011 at 16:17

This has been the most expensive I've seen today :eek:

lordrobs · 4 Jan 2011 at 16:22

[TW]Fox;18137165 said:
I usually get about 280 from a full tank (£86).

Ouch

As my mileage is weighted heavily towards work use I've always said to my self that when it is costing me more than 20ppm to fuel my car then it is time to shift it on for something more economical.

Last tank was 17.5 ppm... getting a bit close, maybe I'll have to make up some other criteria to keep me out of an economical motor for a bit longer

EDIT- Just noticed my last tank was at 121.9... dread to think what SUL will be when I fill up :eek:

Also noticed that despite not having a fixed regular commute as such, my MPG is surprisingly consistent :eek:

[TW]Fox · 4 Jan 2011 at 16:23

Jez said:
It also shows that the RPI linked price has actually been fairly favourable since 1983. Nothing like as bad as people make out anyhow! Its actually been cheaper than then for years until recently.

But isnt that base during the oil crisis?

Witor · 4 Jan 2011 at 16:23

It's much lower in Gibraltar, granted, but it's jumped around 10p a litre over the past 3-4 months. 95Ron is now 88-92p, 97 is 96-99p. Annoying.

Jez · 4 Jan 2011 at 16:26

[TW]Fox;18140982 said:
But isnt that base during the oil crisis?

Whatever the base, to be fair it has been very consistent really given time period and world events/change during that period?

lordrobs · 4 Jan 2011 at 16:31

whitecrook said:
It's about 20p more per litre than this time last year - here is my figures for last year I think I missed a receipt in Aug or something, though. Car seems to be pretty consistent on the average MPG, problem is it's mostly short journeys at ~ 10 miles or so.

I'm intrigued, averages mid twenties and yet is capable of a one off 50+ mpg over 650 miles. What engine does your 1 series have?

JRS · 4 Jan 2011 at 16:33

lordrobs said:
I'm intrigued, averages mid twenties and yet is capable of a one off 50+ mpg over 650 miles. What engine does your 1 series have?

whitecrook said:
I think I missed a receipt in Aug or something, though.

I would guess that the anomalous result might have something to do with that

lordrobs · 4 Jan 2011 at 16:38

JRS said:
I would guess that the anomalous result might have something to do with that

Doh

I saw figures in a spreadsheet and got all excited, completely missing what was written in the post

Still interested in hearing what engine it has as those figures seem on the low side. Even when I'm only doing the 2.6 miles to work and back I struggle to get my mpg down below the mid 20's although I don't encounter any traffic.

Pete19s · 4 Jan 2011 at 17:43

If anyone is looking for cheap(ish) fuel the local Morrisons was still 121.9 earlier on today. I don't expect it to last long but its a good few pennies cheaper than Tesco & Sainsburys.

Kutter · 4 Jan 2011 at 17:48

when did LPG get so expensive ? didnt it used to be about 40p a litre about 2 years ago ?

whitecrook · 4 Jan 2011 at 18:02

lordrobs said:
Doh

I saw figures in a spreadsheet and got all excited, completely missing what was written in the post

Still interested in hearing what engine it has as those figures seem on the low side. Even when I'm only doing the 2.6 miles to work and back I struggle to get my mpg down below the mid 20's although I don't encounter any traffic.

Its a Merc 320 CDI. Sitting on the motorway crusing will hit around 40mpg according to the obc. But I rarely do that and end up mostly sitting in traffic getting low 20's.

whitecrook · 4 Jan 2011 at 18:07

doofski said:
when did LPG get so expensive ? didnt it used to be about 40p a litre about 2 years ago ?

Yup. Im sure in round 05-06 (5 years ago!!) it was 38p at my local.

Thing with LPG as well is that it's not as efficient as petrol. I believe the rough figure is 60-70% so If you can buy LPG at 60-70% of the price of petrol its about the same equivalent, only you'd need to fill up more. If you are getting it cheaper than 60-70% cost of petrol then you should be saving money.