Fuel up/down again

[Will Gill]

sounds viable,

can I reflect on glory days when a fiver would nearly fill my renault 5?

guess I just did

 

[Cosimo]

can I reflect on glory days when a fiver would nearly fill my renault 5?

guess I just did

Don't make me cry, my refill is now over a hundred quid.

 

[rypt]

Energy is expensive these days and it sure as hell isn't going to drastically get cheaper any time soon. It's already around 145ppl for example in Norway.

It really is not.

Current price of petrol is ~44ppl afaik, that is CHEAP

 

[Howard]

Paid 126.9 this morning. Oh well

 

[Will Gill]

Don't make me cry, my refill is now over a hundred quid.

I had a polaroid somewhere when shell reverted to pre war prices for a day, I'm sure it was 0.08p a litre, if they did that now I'd go and buy a few swimming pools and fill them

 

[Scania]

sounds viable,

can I reflect on glory days when a fiver would nearly fill my renault 5?

guess I just did

I recall £15 just about filling the tank on my XR3i, ahh! glory days indeed.

 

[lordrobs]

SUL at the same garage that I last used (on 16/12/10) was 7p/L more last night

I would be looking to change cars but I have no idea what the scenario with Diesel will be in a few years time. Really don't want to buy a diesel and find that in 2 years time it is 15p/L more than unleaded.

The temptation is to buy a late Mk1 Focus for not a huge amount of cash now and have another look at things in a couple of years.

 

[Lashout_UK]

It really is not.

Current price of petrol is ~44ppl afaik, that is CHEAP

Everywhere I look says Norway costs between 135 and 150ppl, with an average of something like 148ppl. Where's the 44ppl coming from? I feel like I'm missing something

ftp://ftp.royalmail.com/Downloads/public/ctf/po/po_motoring_on_the_continent.pdf

Page two (as well as numerous other placeson t'web).

 

[Overlag]

Nobody to blame but yourself in that case - even with prices as they are there is no real reason to pay the top whack prices some opportunistic filling stations charge.

And 130.1? What an odd price..

different parts of the country have different prices. Most places up here are in the 130s already. Which is why when all this news came out about it hitting 130 i was like so? its been this way for weeks.

Its almost a good time to have my car off road. im saving £50 a week on petrol, even if it is costing £700ish to get fixed

 

[rypt]

Everywhere I look says Norway costs between 135 and 150ppl, with an average of something like 148ppl. Where's the 44ppl coming from? I feel like I'm missing something

ftp://ftp.royalmail.com/Downloads/public/ctf/po/po_motoring_on_the_continent.pdf

Page two (as well as numerous other placeson t'web).

I said current COST of petrol in UK, NOT current cost of petrol at retail for end user.

It is 44p petrol cost, and then 130-44 tax/duty

Which is my point, the actual fuel is cheap ... the expensive part is the cut the government takes

 

[Overlag]

I said current COST of petrol in UK, NOT current cost of petrol at retail for end user.

It is 44p petrol cost, and then 130-44 tax/duty

Which is my point, the actual fuel is cheap ... the expensive part is the cut the government takes

but your reply looked like you was disagreeing with the cost being 140-150 in Norway, which it is.

yes Petrol is 44p but find a government that doesn't use it as a cash cow?

 

[Deleted member 66701]

Everywhere I look says Norway costs between 135 and 150ppl, with an average of something like 148ppl. Where's the 44ppl coming from? I feel like I'm missing something

ftp://ftp.royalmail.com/Downloads/public/ctf/po/po_motoring_on_the_continent.pdf

Page two (as well as numerous other placeson t'web).

Yes, but average earnings in Norway are more than 1.75 times that of the UK.

Average earnings:-

UK £26k
Norway £46k

So they earn 1.75x what we do but only pay 14% more for fuel?

In real terms, in relation to earnings, they pay half the amount for fuel than we do.

 

[Participant]

Yes, but average earnings in Norway are more than 1.75 times that of the UK.

Average earnings:-

UK £26k
Norway £46k

So they earn 1.75x what we do but only pay 14% more for fuel?

In real terms, in relation to earnings, they pay half the amount for fuel than we do.

If you're going to go down that road you need to consider other taxes also. They might pay less than us in fuel per capita but if their overall cost of living is higher in other areas, this doesn't paint the whole picture.

 

[rypt]

yes Petrol is 44p but find a government that doesn't use it as a cash cow?

USA, Arab countries, South American countries ...

 

[Jonnycoupe]

Some countries actually subsidise it!

 

[Lashout_UK]

Well under 15p in most areas of Venezuela, due to subsidies as mentioned - reports of as low as 2-3p in some!

100 litre tank? 2 quid to fill Sorted!

 

[zain]

Full tank of Shell VP 67 pounds.

Being 'green' is a lame reason for all fuel duty and climate levy. They are inelastic and have little effect changing demand unless the persons broke, maybe thats the angle...UK CO2 Emissions (also lies) down by 90% as country cannot afford to feed itself! Good statistics, bad reality

 

[jamoor]

Some countries actually subsidise it!

Indeed, Iran subsidises fuel and pretty much all types of energy including food, which I find very strange indeed.

 

[bobert50]

Yet again diesel shows how its really worth the money. Not.

Heck I get low 20's in traffic!

Its not always the case though.

Last 50 or so receipts i've had for diesel have worked out between 46-48 mpg combined in a 2.2 diesel saloon thats very comfortable in roughly 20% town, 30% 50mph roads and 50% motorway.

 

[Irish_Tom]

David Cameron on Andrew Marr this morning more-or-less confirmed that there's going to be another duty rise in April... Because they currently don't get enough revenue from fuel.