Caporegime
I went for sit on lawnmowers, but one and the same thing really.
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Soldato
Since i'm bored, i bet i can make your post sound like you were describing a Bugatti Veyron more than a Toyota Prius, just by changing a couple of words.
I can guarantee you have not driven a Bugatti Veyron, or you would not have stated that. The initial instant torque of the quad turbos combined with the 8000cc W16 engine will throw you back in your seat and you will be pulling way ahead whilst the rest of the pack are still going thru the gears. Will some of them pass me further up the road? absolutely they will not
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We are talking about the initial first from the post here, 80% of cars will beat me will they? Name a vehicle with gear changing of one sort or another that doesn't lose some momentum in acceleration.
Learn how the Prius incorrectly called CVT transmission works and no it doesn't have belts on pulleys either,
Test drive one and then come back on here with personal experience and not stuff you read on the net. Why? because Prius bashing is fashionable, most of you here are jumping on the bandwagon, Prius is crap, Prius is slow, Prius ,lol every diesel is more economical etc. Lol, but of course you wouldn't be seen dead driving one in case people thought you were a green tree hugger
I've read write ups from pro journalists who don't even know how the vehicle works so what chance do you lot have
Caporegime
Why are you getting excited about a CVT gearbox, so are you saying because your box can change gear faster than a manual box erm found in something like a McLaren F1 by default the Prius would be quicker off the line?
I know exactly how CVT and DSG gearbox's work thanks, doesn't mean anything if you pair that to an underpowered engine.
Test drive one and then come back on here with personal experience and not stuff you read on the net. Why? because Prius bashing is fashionable, most of you here are jumping on the bandwagon, Prius is crap, Prius is slow, Prius ,lol every diesel is more economical etc. Lol, but of course you wouldn't be seen dead driving one in case people thought you were a green tree hugger
I've read write ups from pro journalists who don't even know how the vehicle works so what chance do you lot have
Why would i need to drive one, i've been in loads in Milan, i hated every single one, i don't need to drive one to know its slow, the offical manufactures quoted power, 0-60 and top speed figures tell me everything i need to know.
Or are you saying these are wrong?
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I thought I'd pointed out that the Prius doesn't actually change gear because it basically only has one gear so as predicted no you don't know how the Prius transmission works
Soldato
I think his point is that its not actually a CVT gearbox.... It doesnt change gear.
Caporegime
My point is the gearbox is irrelevent.
You seem to be flapping around the point, you said you said it would leave most cars behind at the lights, you seem to think this is because of your not so magical gearbox.
You seem to be flapping around the point, you said you said it would leave most cars behind at the lights, you seem to think this is because of your not so magical gearbox.
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Soldato
Yes. Even a 320d ED will leave a Prius standing and still do 60mpg.
Who cares about it's gear changing ability (or lack of)? A seamless gear change (or no gearchange) in a 10s 0-60 car will make about 0.5sec difference over a manual.
Really?! Oh if you were talking about a Prius with different belts and pulleys I would have definitely believed you.
Why do i need to drive one to know that it's slow? Do i also need to go out and drive a Nissan Micra to say that they are slow?
But this IS fact! The Prius IS slow. Many diesels ARE more economical.
Lol, but of course you wouldn't be seen dead driving one in case people thought you were a green tree hugger
No, i wouldn't be seen driving one because they are slow, pointless and expensive.
Just out of interest, what were the other 23 cars you owned before? Did you used to own a Peel P50 Used Car lot?
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Soldato
I beat loads of people away from the lights....
Mainly due to me knowing the route that I can go in the left lane and overtake the right hand que to then get past the next set before they go red.... aswell as moving immediately on amber. Thats is because Im driving to make progress and have a brain. It has nothing to do with the capability of the car, just driver choice.
Mainly due to me knowing the route that I can go in the left lane and overtake the right hand que to then get past the next set before they go red.... aswell as moving immediately on amber. Thats is because Im driving to make progress and have a brain. It has nothing to do with the capability of the car, just driver choice.
Soldato
Soldato
LOL, the usual anti Prius response
Unlike most of you I've actually driven one on a 3 day test drive so I will give my point of view.
Was I impressed? very, would I have one rather than a series3 BMW definitely.
The good: it's very relaxing to drive, the auto box
is incredibly smooth and unlike anything else I have driven. In power mode it can throw you back in your seat as described by others, the engine kicks in and out without you knowing. I did hammer it a couple of times and it was way more responsive than I expected. Can definitely leave a boy racers Corsa for e.g in the dust as demonstrated by myself
Lots of boys toys to play with on top of the range T.Spirit. Weird keyfob thingy that goes in a slot although with smart entry you keep it in your pocket and just touching the door handle with your finger unlocks it and you can start up without inserting it.
The only complaint if that was the word is road noise was worse than expected due to keeping the weight down presumably altho it might be down to the tyres used.
No reverse gear, it uses electric and I couldn't get used to no handbrake either
I'm seriously looking to get one altho I can't afford the T.Spirit new
Unlike most of you I've actually driven one on a 3 day test drive so I will give my point of view.
Was I impressed? very, would I have one rather than a series3 BMW definitely.
The good: it's very relaxing to drive, the auto box
is incredibly smooth and unlike anything else I have driven. In power mode it can throw you back in your seat as described by others, the engine kicks in and out without you knowing. I did hammer it a couple of times and it was way more responsive than I expected. Can definitely leave a boy racers Corsa for e.g in the dust as demonstrated by myselfLots of boys toys to play with on top of the range T.Spirit. Weird keyfob thingy that goes in a slot although with smart entry you keep it in your pocket and just touching the door handle with your finger unlocks it and you can start up without inserting it.
The only complaint if that was the word is road noise was worse than expected due to keeping the weight down presumably altho it might be down to the tyres used.
No reverse gear, it uses electric and I couldn't get used to no handbrake either
I'm seriously looking to get one altho I can't afford the T.Spirit new
Soldato
Can definitely leave a boy racers Corsa for e.g in the dust as demonstrated by myself
Slow car in beating really slow car shocker.
I can understand your point though as the midrange of hybrid cars can be pretty impressive when both units are on song. Something often masked by paper stats.
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A glimmer of hope against the anti hybrid brigade, someone actually knows what they are talking about for once
Soldato
A glimmer of hope against the anti hybrid brigade, someone actually knows what they are talking about for once
You won't change any of their opinions unfortunately, I had their view also simply because of some of the stuff on the internet. it's come to the point now where you have to decide whether you drive 'cool wheels' to impress your mates or whether you drive something to suit your pocket or whatever.
Comparing diesels with the Prius doesn't take into account that it's an automatic and if anyone has an medium sized auto diesel that can beat the Prius I'd be very surprised.
I got quite varied mpg on my test drive, a 12 mile trip showed 84 mpg whereas a 5 mile short trip showed 59mpg, I kept resetting it on each trip to get an idea of different mpg.
The Prius definitely likes warm weather as the car heater encourages the engine to come on more often to warm the cabin as of course when sitting in a traffic jam the engine is off so it fires up for 30 seconds every now and again.
I'm serious thinking about changing not only mine but some of my collegaues company cars over to hybrids.
Saves the company money, saves the employees money, should reduce accidents & potentially a good bit of PR too.
But then I look at the OTR price of a CRZ or whatever and I back away from the idea.
Saves the company money, saves the employees money, should reduce accidents & potentially a good bit of PR too.
But then I look at the OTR price of a CRZ or whatever and I back away from the idea.
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more to the point why does everyone jump to shout that diesels are better? Why buy a Prius when you can have a diesel?
Why would I want to sit in traffic with the engine sounding like a box of loose spanners when I can have complete silence? Why would I want to pay more per litre ( watch it rise to 15p more than petrol again)
Why do any of you in this thread drive a diesel? it can only be for economy can't it?can't possibly be any other reason ,how many of you have a private or company diesel Mondeo for e.g.? I bet you struggle to get near the official Ford combined 50.5mpg,
There was the very same argument a number of years ago when nobody would touch a smelly noisy diesel. Oh wait! new technology means diesels are a lot quieter now but even newer technology that uses batteries to boost the engine is a complete no no and yet all the manufacturers are falling over themselves to develop plug in hybrids that you will all eventually be driving. You can take the p*** all you like but I know I've made the right decision
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Take a Prius test drive and come back on here and give us your opinion
Man of Honour
I borrowed a colleague's Prius. It was kinda cool inside, and the electric motor + engine was responsive. However, I wouldn't have one, unless work gave me one as a company car. They are still slow, and just not that fun to drive found it quite dull.
However, if you want a car that is economical and a bit "gimmicky" it's a good car. If offered as a company car it's tempting - as a private car, no thanks.
Also buying a Prius for saving the world is filled with so much hypocrisy that it's just not worth my while.
However, if you want a car that is economical and a bit "gimmicky" it's a good car. If offered as a company car it's tempting - as a private car, no thanks.
Also buying a Prius for saving the world is filled with so much hypocrisy that it's just not worth my while.