FYI - Vista RTM now on MSDN

stoofa · 17 Nov 2006 at 17:01

I've had access to both 32bit & 64bit ISO's since I arrived at work this morning.
The 64bit ISO is around 3.5GB, the 32bit one closer to 2.5GB.

We had our new leased line installed yesterday so I managed to grab the 64bit ISO nice and early on our 8MB/8MB 1:1 line very quickly.
Alas I waited until the US had woken up before I started grabbing the 32bit ISO and that is coming down a lot slower right now - 300MB still remaining at around 400KB/sec

RikWebb · 17 Nov 2006 at 17:01

Stelly said:
just worked out what RTM stands for lol

Stelly

There doesnt seem to be a smiley for dizzy blonds!!

Mind my day has been a bit like that.

Rik

RikWebb · 17 Nov 2006 at 17:04

stoofa said:
I've had access to both 32bit & 64bit ISO's since I arrived at work this morning.
The 64bit ISO is around 3.5GB, the 32bit one closer to 2.5GB.

We had our new leased line installed yesterday so I managed to grab the 64bit ISO nice and early on our 8MB/8MB 1:1 line very quickly.
Alas I waited until the US had woken up before I started grabbing the 32bit ISO and that is coming down a lot slower right now - 300MB still remaining at around 400KB/sec

That figures - I got the 32bit at around midnigh last night, must have just been posted and not 64bit - US asleep, me get 7 - 8 mb.

Rik

Ricochet J · 17 Nov 2006 at 17:08

Stelly said:
just worked out what RTM stands for lol

Stelly

What is it?

RikWebb · 17 Nov 2006 at 17:11

eXSBass said:
What is it?

You are having a laugh arnt you ??

Release to Manufacturing !!

EDIT: and just before anyone asks, you get all the versions including ultimate on the one ISO - your product key selects which.

Stolly · 17 Nov 2006 at 20:31

RikWebb said:
You are having a laugh arnt you ??

Release to Manufacturing !!

EDIT: and just before anyone asks, you get all the versions including ultimate on the one ISO - your product key selects which.

This is clever stuff.

Its all imaged. The DVD is a universal image file (called a WIM file) It does single instance storage so you can have all the different editions in the WIM and it just stores the differences, not the same files over and over. There is no installation as such, and the installation source is not on the DVD. It boots into WinPE 2 ( http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/deploy/winpe.mspx ) WinPE just lays down the image onto your PC.

If you are in a corporate deployment situation with a need of 10 client images that are only slightly different you could fit all 10 on a 2gb memory stick.

All good stuff.

RikWebb · 17 Nov 2006 at 21:32

Stolly said:
This is clever stuff.

Its all imaged. The DVD is a universal image file (called a WIM file) It does single instance storage so you can have all the different editions in the WIM and it just stores the differences, not the same files over and over. There is no installation as such, and the installation source is not on the DVD. It boots into WinPE 2 ( http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/deploy/winpe.mspx ) WinPE just lays down the image onto your PC.

If you are in a corporate deployment situation with a need of 10 client images that are only slightly different you could fit all 10 on a 2gb memory stick.

All good stuff.

Nice explanation, I was wondering how to explain to someone asking what RTM was without confusing the heck out of them!

Now RTM is out, I will be testing builds for work, so hopefully I will learn a bit more about this stuff.

Rik

Stolly · 17 Nov 2006 at 22:16

RikWebb said:
Nice explanation, I was wondering how to explain to someone asking what RTM was without confusing the heck out of them!

Now RTM is out, I will be testing builds for work, so hopefully I will learn a bit more about this stuff.

Rik

You want BDD

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/desktopdeployment/bdd/2007/default.mspx

Its in beta 2 now, expect it to be done before the end of the year.

Did the course on it on Monday albeit the course was still on Beta 1 BDD and Beta 2 Vista. All impressive kit though. They seem to have RIS sorted out now (renamed Windows Deployment Server)

You can have it do a "refresh" where it grabs all the data the users might want to keep on their local disks ( yeah, i know there shouldn't be any but often there is) puts it in a hidden folder, deletes everything else on the HDD, lays down a fresh Vista build and then puts their data back to where it was.

toString · 17 Nov 2006 at 22:58

Hope to see it on the msdn:aa very soon...

RikWebb · 17 Nov 2006 at 23:32

Stolly said:
You want BDD

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/desktopdeployment/bdd/2007/default.mspx

Its in beta 2 now, expect it to be done before the end of the year.

Did the course on it on Monday albeit the course was still on Beta 1 BDD and Beta 2 Vista. All impressive kit though. They seem to have RIS sorted out now (renamed Windows Deployment Server)

You can have it do a "refresh" where it grabs all the data the users might want to keep on their local disks ( yeah, i know there shouldn't be any but often there is) puts it in a hidden folder, deletes everything else on the HDD, lays down a fresh Vista build and then puts their data back to where it was.

Fantastic,
lets just hope that HP sort out my OS Manager to work with this!
Unfortunatly thats what was chosen for OS deployment before I took over the project. Its pretty crap trying to architect something where the product set had been chosen by someone else. Makes for an interesting life anyway!!
Rik

Meatball · 17 Nov 2006 at 23:34

KingAdora said:
Hope to see it on the msdn:aa very soon...

what's MSDN:AA ? And what is MSDN? Microsofts online "shop" where you pay thousands to download legal versions of there operating systems? how can you guys afford to fork out for a subscription? :eek:

byron_hinson · 17 Nov 2006 at 23:40

Meatball said:
what's MSDN:AA ? And what is MSDN? Microsofts online "shop" where you pay thousands to download legal versions of there operating systems? how can you guys afford to fork out for a subscription?

Well Microsoft offered it to me for free as part of my website, so I won't complain hehe.

RikWebb · 17 Nov 2006 at 23:47

Meatball said:
what's MSDN:AA ? And what is MSDN? Microsofts online "shop" where you pay thousands to download legal versions of there operating systems? how can you guys afford to fork out for a subscription?

The worlds third largest IT company pay for mine, cos I work for them!! :eek:

Well, I think we are still third???

tom_e · 18 Nov 2006 at 00:18

Most large companys give their IT staff access to MSDN which is Microsoft Developers Network so that they can get to grips with new software before they start putting it on company machines and things like that, Uni's give us access to MSDNAA which is Microsoft Developers Network Academic Alliance because were too poor to buy all this software

and it means us and the uni can run on the same software to make thing easier

lay-z-boy · 18 Nov 2006 at 00:52

Dowloading my working copy now, thanks for the heads up

(finally the badge on my xps m1710 can do what is says

)

riddlermarc · 18 Nov 2006 at 08:20

blitz2163 said:
Most large companys give their IT staff access to MSDN which is Microsoft Developers Network so that they can get to grips with new software before they start putting it on company machines and things like that, Uni's give us access to MSDNAA which is Microsoft Developers Network Academic Alliance because were too poor to buy all this software and it means us and the uni can run on the same software to make thing easier

Yup, MS gave our company ten MSDN Universal licenses as part-payment for some networking work we did for them and those ten licenses were given to the ten most worthy IT bods (me included

)

testa12 · 18 Nov 2006 at 09:40

Can confirm I now have Vista RTM installed and it's looking damn sweet!

Massive performance and stabilty improvements since RC2, the ATI Catalyst drivers installed and everything is running smoothly. It really does feel like the finished product now.

Have to say it was worth the wait :cool:

Harbz · 18 Nov 2006 at 10:14

what are you guys installing, 32bit or 64?

riddlermarc · 18 Nov 2006 at 10:39

testa12 said:
Can confirm I now have Vista RTM installed and it's looking damn sweet!

Massive performance and stabilty improvements since RC2, the ATI Catalyst drivers installed and everything is running smoothly. It really does feel like the finished product now.

Have to say it was worth the wait

Cool, just burning mine now so I'll report back later.. fingers crossed

byron_hinson · 18 Nov 2006 at 10:43

Harbz said:
what are you guys installing, 32bit or 64?

Go with 32-bit for now as there are too many compatibility problems with the 64-bit version and still a massive lack of drivers at the moment. We've been doing out Gold review since the day Vista went RTM and we're all using the 32-bit version now!