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G80 Pics

no_1_dave said:
I think its fake.
Nvidia would never make a card that long & ugly as a main stream product. Also, that much power? No way, wouldnt even expect that from ATI...
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You have no idea
 
That isnt main stream. They new only a select few would buy it.
G80 is supposed to be main stream & a lot of people who have high end rigs will buy one, hence they wont make it that ugly
 
Boogle said:
Sure adding more means more heat, but thats a very brute force approach. Lets use a basic example:

If you increase the size of an internal combustion engine, it will become more powerful. You'll get a higher top speed, faster acceleration, albeit with diminishing returns. However, what if you add lubrication? Suddenly you can use a smaller engine and still get better performance. What about slick tyres? Now you have much better acceleration, breaking, handling.

A more efficient design yields better performance, less heat, and requires less power.
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Yes, exactly. More efficient, intelligent design improves efficiency as I said.

But to use your same example: Just as there are theoretical limits on how efficient the movement of a car can be (the energy put into the system must be larger than the energy required to move the car against the retarding force of the air rushing past it) there are theoretical limits on the power required for a given amount of processing power. You can add lubrication, better tyre technology, aerodynamic improvements, all of which may reduce the energy requirement for a given speed of travel - but in the end you're fighting against the basic laws of physics which say 'if you want to go faster you need to put in more energy'. The same is true with computer components because of the need to localy reduce entropy.
 
Duff-Man said:
Yes, exactly. More efficient, intelligent design improves efficiency as I said.

But to use your same example: Just as there are theoretical limits on how efficient the movement of a car can be (the energy put into the system must be larger than the energy required to move the car against the retarding force of the air rushing past it) there are theoretical limits on the power required for a given amount of processing power. You can add lubrication, better tyre technology, aerodynamic improvements, all of which may reduce the energy requirement for a given speed of travel - but in the end you're fighting against the basic laws of physics which say 'if you want to go faster you need to put in more energy'. The same is true with computer components because of the need to localy reduce entropy.
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you will get a more efficient design in the g81
 
no_1_dave said:
That isnt main stream. They new only a select few would buy it.
G80 is supposed to be main stream & a lot of people who have high end rigs will buy one, hence they wont make it that ugly
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The 7900GX2 (rebranded as 7950GX2, not Dell, e.g. XFX) is for sale all over, big etailors as well, £300 ish. Main-stream? No it's not, I suppose that depends on a definition. Its still a retail product and lots of people bought them, so would NV make such a big ugly card. You betcha.

As for power consumption, why have the PTB introduced a new 300W PCI-E standard? The old one was good for 225W.

I'd say the pics are of an early ES, doubt the retail version will be as ugly.
 
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fornowagain said:
The 7900GX2 (rebranded as 7950GX2, not Dell, e.g. XFX) is for sale all over, big etailors as well, £300 ish. Main-stream? No it's not, I suppose that depends on a definition. Its still a retail product and lots of people bought them, so would NV make such a big ugly card. You betcha.
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I think the point is that when nvidia designed it, it wasn't intended to be a mainstream product. The only reason it is appearing at some retailors is cus quad sli doesn't work propely and they made too many, so now they get rid of the useless cards by rebranding them as 7950gx2's and selling them as retail.

It doesn't matter anyway, I think it looks good. :p
 
ugly ferret said:
I think the point is that when nvidia designed it, it wasn't intended to be a mainstream product. The only reason it is appearing at some retailors is cus quad sli doesn't work propely and they made too many, so now they get rid of the useless cards by rebranding them as 7950gx2's and selling them as retail.
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Very true, common knowledge how it got to market. My point is its still out there, designed by NV (with NV rebranding consent) and its still big & ugly, so they're quite capable of poor aesthetics. But hey that's OK then, they save the big & ugly cards for non-mainstream applications.

I've never agreed with comments like "sexy fan design" e.g. the HIS 19**'s. I look at the monitor not the card, I suppose with clear side windows its an issue. As long as its functional I'm not bothered. I think it's obviously a prototype, maybe an early one, some reports say G80 engineering samples have been around since early 06.
 
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