G80 specs finally confirmed! NOT old news!

Flanno · 9 Oct 2006 at 18:28

The Asgard said:
All so very true and wise words at the end.

I say this everytime. I am not upgrading to the latest graphics card this time round because ...... Do I listen to myself? No. Never. I think the people on here are just like me and the latest and greatest is like a drug and like drugs once hooked you can never get enough. Sad but true. We are all PC junkies.
......

I agree 1000%. Over the last 3 years I have went from PC's and back again...just couldn't go cold turkey. Last time I had what was the top rig at the time (FX57, 2x7900GTX's) and bought the lot on day of release. Flogged it and got a 360. But was so dissapointed. I am not back in PC land. Unfortunately the system I have below in my sig is not my home machine so am now just about to build a brand new rig this week. Just putting the thread together now so any advice appreciated.

Flanno · 9 Oct 2006 at 18:30

Whos' buying a wii...no dolby digital, high def, hard drive, and not much quicker then the original xbox - but the games are tasty

Flanno · 9 Oct 2006 at 19:17

Warbie said:
It's interesting you mention Oblivion - I've played that on a Core 2 Duo with a few X1900xts. It looks lovely, but it still sufers from slow down all the time. Run it at comparable setting to the 360 version and it doesn't run any better

I had them both running on my pc at 1280 and on the 360, which is 1280 also. On the 360 version you could not see as far into the distance, and there was draw in and grass popped up. Also on horseback there was very poor framerate. My PC did not have this problem, looked better and while the framerate did drop some, it was not as noticeable. I suppose the 360 version wasn't a bad effort.

Warbie · 9 Oct 2006 at 20:03

Flanno said:
I suppose the 360 version wasn't a bad effort.

Agreed, especially as it was one of the first games released on the system. It takes a pretty powerful and expensive pc to top the 360.

Given more time with the machine, I believe Oblvion could run as well on the 360 as any current pc hardware would allow.

rippling · 9 Oct 2006 at 20:04

Warbie said:
Agreed, especially as it was one of the first games released on the system. It takes a pretty powerful and expensive pc to top the 360.

Given more time with the machine, I believe Oblvion could run as well on the 360 as any current pc hardware would allow.

mybe , but just how poweful do you think the 360 is?

Flanno · 9 Oct 2006 at 20:14

I saw a site somewhere where they specced the throughput of the gpu on the 360 much lower then an X1800XT 256meg...must dig up the link. Then again, all these unified shader stuff is on the 360 first and is a bit of an unknown quantity.

Still getting the 8800 when it comes out though. And not fooling myself by saying it will do me for 2 years as I and a lot of other people said on these forums. But a lot of us feel the itch to upgrade every 6 months.....X800-XT PE, X850-XT PE, 7800gtx sli, 7900gtx quickly changed for 1900xt-x, 7950GX2, 8800 etc.. <sigh>

Warbie · 9 Oct 2006 at 20:26

rippling said:
mybe , but just how poweful do you think the 360 is?

Not sure yet, hopefully some of the games released around christmas will show us. Gaming wise I think it'll be more powerful than the 6600 and X1900xt i'm about to order.

ernysmuntz · 9 Oct 2006 at 21:18

Flanno said:
Whos' buying a wii...no dolby digital, high def, hard drive, and not much quicker then the original xbox - but the games are tasty

I'm pretty sure its less powerful than an xbox1.

It literally is a gamecube with an overclocked graphics card, (same hardware just faster GPU, albeit, the same GPU)

Flanno · 9 Oct 2006 at 21:20

It's the cool controller and nintendo playability on the games that will sell it. I want one for sure. Hopefully they wont kill off the component output like they did on the PAL Xbox, so at least we can get 480p. Might look pants on a Dell 2407 though

Naffa · 9 Oct 2006 at 21:21

ernysmuntz said:
I'm pretty sure its less powerful than an xbox1.

It literally is a gamecube with an overclocked graphics card, (same hardware just faster GPU, albeit, the same GPU)

I was under the impression it was just under as powerful as two Gamecubes?

ernysmuntz · 9 Oct 2006 at 21:23

Warbie said:
Not sure yet, hopefully some of the games released around christmas will show us. Gaming wise I think it'll be more powerful than the 6600 and X1900xt i'm about to order.

The 360\PS3 are pretty much bang on equal in power. They have very different CPU\GPU setups, so some game developers will get more power out of the 360 and some the PS3, supposedly the PS3 is harder to get to grips with but who knows.

In terms of comparisons with a PC, I'd say its about as powerful as a 2.4Ghz A64\X1900XT setup for the PC.

I'm going by how most games look and play at 1360x768 (res of the xbox 360).

The thing is though, there are some games, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, that just look incredible on the 360, almost like how I'd guess DX10 to look, and then games are only going to get better as developers get accustomed to it. And then there's 3 cores, and I doubt all 3 are being fully utilised in current games....but then again who knows.

sunlitsix · 9 Oct 2006 at 21:23

wasnt this thread about the G80?

ernysmuntz · 9 Oct 2006 at 21:26

naffa said:
I was under the impression it was just under as powerful as two Gamecubes?

Defo read somewhere a couple of months back when the specs were revealed that it was just a Gamecube, but faster.

I could be slightly wrong, in that there might be some extra hardware in there, but its definately minor. And the actual core of the console is just a gamecube.

Abit like going from a G70 to G71, in the graphics card business. Don't think there's anything next gen about it.

The graphics card may well be clocked a lot faster, but its still pretty much old tech.

Dunno...soz for vageness

....I'll have a look

Naffa · 9 Oct 2006 at 21:28

The CPU is dual core, I definately read that. Developed by IBM...

But yeah, this is the most interessting info on the G80 yet.

ernysmuntz · 9 Oct 2006 at 21:31

Here we go

http://www.jameswoodcock.co.uk/?p=687

Think I was wrong on the cpu, but still its only going about 750mhz odd, its also a powerPC which is slower than a competeing Pentium3 equivalent.

GPU is same as Gamecube, but apparently 1.5 times faster.

....Soz this is totally OT, my apologies.

Flanno · 9 Oct 2006 at 21:32

Do you think OcUK will have the XFX extreme versions of the G80 on offer ?
At 100 quid more expensive then the stock versions.

I never understood the point of these uber overclocked cards as the OEM verison of the 7900GTX I got overclocked almost as high as the extreme extreme XFX which was about 200 quid more if I remember rightly.

Also, I remember a lot of people saying how sometimes preoverclocked cards (XFX, EVGA) tended to artifact, speculating thay maybe the manufacturers were not so dilligent in testing these "cherry" picked cores.

I think I will be getting whatever the cheapest one is on the day, but no doubt as OcUK will have it in stock first and it will be supply/demand so we will all be paying over the odds.

This is the first time I actually had money in my pocket waiting for something to come out. Can't wait.

Naffa · 9 Oct 2006 at 21:35

ernysmuntz said:
....Soz this is totally OT, my apologies.

Nah, don't be. That's the beauty of OcUK. You can start a thread talking about how cookies are made, then you go into how Labour ruined something which was vaguely related to the production of some of the flour that went into the making of one of the cookies. It's what makes the threads so interessting.

ernysmuntz · 9 Oct 2006 at 21:38

Warbie said:
Agreed, especially as it was one of the first games released on the system. It takes a pretty powerful and expensive pc to top the 360.

Given more time with the machine, I believe Oblvion could run as well on the 360 as any current pc hardware would allow.

I *think* Oblivion was coded with the 360 in mind, and the PC as a second thought, well not quite, but more effort seems to have been put into the 360 version. This could explain why its such a hog on the PC.

To run oblivion as well on a pc as the 360, you need at least an X1900XT with a top end CPU....But then other games Quake 4 for example run like a dog turd sliding down some sand paper....ummmm i need help.

Soz...

I got a 360 and will defo provided the benchmarks are ok be getting an 8800. Had enough of me 7800GTX, 360\PC gaming is different, RTS\FPS and that sort of thing on the PC, and Sport\adventure\racing sorta stuff on the 360 for me....

ernysmuntz · 9 Oct 2006 at 21:40

naffa said:
Nah, don't be. That's the beauty of OcUK. You can start a thread talking about how cookies are made, then you go into how Labour ruined something which was vaguely related to the production of some of the flour that went into the making of one of the cookies. It's what makes the threads so interessting.

ernysmuntz · 9 Oct 2006 at 21:46

Ulfhedjinn said:
Games like Alan Wake and Crysis could easily run on the Xbox 360, but look at The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. Dumbed-down graphics, no anisotropic filtering, only 2x antialiasing.

They will run, but they will be dumbed down and look nowhere near as good.

Appartantly CryTek are saying now that the 360\PS3 ARE capable of running Crysis.

They just haven't decided if they're gonna do a port or not yet.

(New news today on QJ.net, 360 bit)