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G80 specs finally confirmed! NOT old news!

The thing is that Crysis isnt strictly a DX10 game. Its a DX9 game that can use the DX10 paths for better performance. So apart from a few v.minor differences, they're gonna look almost identical for the most part.
Alan Wake is a good example of next gen graphics/gameplay. Its a true DX10 game, and scales upto 4 cores.
 
everyone seems to be having a debate about its performance when its not know what that performace will be yet.
 
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everyone seems to be having a debate about its performance when its not know what that performace will be yet.
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I agree,

People are moaning saying why spend £500 on a new gen card cause it doesn't support DX 10 yet.

When in reality what is new?

Nothing, all new GFX card releases are around this.Thats the point its just a next Gen card faster than the current crop of cards.Nothing more nothing less.

The DX 10 bit is not important.

The GX2 is £380 the G80 is £120 more big deal its a faster card.
 
lowrider007 said:
I just want to reiterate the fact that I'm buying the G80 and NOT FOR DX10, I really don't care whether this card supports it or not, I want the card because it's next gen, simple as, just give up on the DX10 augument :rolleyes:
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Indeed.

The DX 10 arguement is lame.

Its new gen card thats it. ;)
 
BoomAM said:
The thing is that Crysis isnt strictly a DX10 game. Its a DX9 game that can use the DX10 paths for better performance. So apart from a few v.minor differences, they're gonna look almost identical for the most part.
Alan Wake is a good example of next gen graphics/gameplay. Its a true DX10 game, and scales upto 4 cores.
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Wasn't it shown on a 7900GTX though?! :confused:

Thus meaning it is no more DX10 than crysis. Both being 'DX9' games but with paths for better performance (possibly more eye candy) with DX10.

Probably best to think of both as DX9.5 games.
 
The videos of it were of it running on x1900's, theres a high definition crysis dx10 vid out there, and the only difference with it and DX9 is foggy breath technology :D , when the big metal robot appears you can see its breath, you can't on the DX9 one, thats the only difference, everything else looks identical. :D

Foggy breath technology is coming. :D
 
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Is there any comparison pics etc between dx9 and dx10 games ?
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Yup rippling had a thread before, the high def dx10 video, and the dx9 vids, foggy breath technology for the win!!!!. :D

I think it got deleted though as everyone was saying it looks identical to DX9 apart from the robots foggy breath, and all the DX10 advocates were trying to defend it.
 
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oweneades said:
Wasn't it shown on a 7900GTX though?! :confused:

Thus meaning it is no more DX10 than crysis. Both being 'DX9' games but with paths for better performance (possibly more eye candy) with DX10.

Probably best to think of both as DX9.5 games.
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Im not sure what it was demoed on. Its not hard to see why it would have been demoed on a DX9 card though, considering there are no DX10 cards out. ;)
But the point is that Crysis's DX9 & DX10 are, from what they've released thus far info wise, identical, with the DX10 path doing nothing more than providing a faster rendering path over DX9, providing the same image near enough.
From what ive read of AlanWake, the DX10 mode adds a lot more over the DX9 mode, one mentioned feature was more elaborate foilage.
 
Yeah it'll run faster in DX9 on a DX10 card, so if your getting say 100fps in it now (Crysis) on your high end DX9 card, then your going to have lashed out over £500 for the G80, and then in about 3-4 months time £200 on Vista to be getting say 120fps but also you will get to see the robots breath. :D
 
tbh i thought i did see a few differances , the jungle shots in the video looked like there was more going on , and i thought that the part with the robot looked like there was more explosions and smoke effects , but thats just me
guys i am not against the g80 far from it , dx10 will be worth it in the future , i just did see the sence in rushing out to upgrade to a g80 for £500 just to play dx9 games faster when a single x1900xt should be good for a while yet , and in a few weeks the g80 wil come down in price , esp if ati surprise everyone and release the r600 before xmas ,
think about it nvidia has had to develop a whole new core and chip , where as ati is modifin the xbox 360 xeon gpu for the r600 , so i would bet that ati has the r600 about ready to go ? but prob think whats the point till at least vista is here
i do hope i havent rattled any cages with my posts , just my opinion , :p ;) :D
 
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...where as ati is modifin the xbox 360 xeon gpu for the r600...
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Xenos, not Xeon. ;)

Nowhere has it been confirmed that R600 is just a Xenos chip.
And even if it was, theres far more work to do than just wacking it on a card and selling it. It just doesnt work like that.

Xenos is more than a 3D chip, its basically a NB as well, holds the sound, communication & I/O stuff for the 360 as well.
ATI would have to do a lot of re-engineering of Xenos to remove all that so it could be sold in the PC space. And even then, it still wouldnt be sellable because Xenos has that on-chip memory, again, something that isnt really feasible for a PC graphics product. Then theres the fact that its not designed to use with traditional GDDR memory, so it'll need a new memory controller designing. Again, not easy. And thats just naming things off the top of my head!

Bottom line is that we dont know what R600 is based off, and even if it is based loosely on Xenos, its not as simple as its being made out, to make it work in a normal computer.
 
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rippling said:
guys i am not against the g80 far from it , dx10 will be worth it in the future , i just did see the sence in rushing out to upgrade to a g80 for £500 just to play dx9 games faster when a single x1900xt should be good for a while yet , and in a few weeks the g80 wil come down in price
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Agreed, not against DX10 here either, ill be going DX10 when its getting used more and doesn't look like DX9 still, and when that is G80/R600 are going to be a distant memory as loads of faster/better DX10 cards will have been and gone by then, a high end DX9 card will see you through for a good while yet. :)
 
Look at it this way.

If the G80 wasn't DX 10 and it was just another next Gen gfx card would all this fuss be made?

Would people be saying dont get it cause its £500?

I dont think so :rolleyes:
 
Its only £500 as its DX10 though, i bet if it was just another refreshed DX9 card it would'nt be £500, all your paying for is DX10, you may as well wait until you can use what your paying for, by which time G80 will be about £300.
 
easyrider said:
Look at it this way.

If the G80 wasn't DX 10 and it was just another next Gen gfx card would all this fuss be made?

Would people be saying dont get it cause its £500?

I dont think so :rolleyes:
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i wouldnt pay £500 for any single card , it bloddy outrageous , its ok saying its only 130 more than a gx2 , fine but you still have to shell out 370 for the gx2 , and unless you have evga step up program you will have to sell the gx2 at a loss before buying g80 lol
 
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