The point i was making was that the 7800 GS was as far as everyone knew going to be the last ever high end AGP card, no more high end AGP cards were coming after that, so everyone rushed out thinking, right seen as this is the last ever AGP card, then after this thats it, ill get one seen as its a high end one, see me through for a while longer before i make a jump to PCI-E, but then Gainward bring out the 7800 GT, so some of them must be thinking damn, if id known this was not going to be the last ever AGP card, and there was an even higher end one coming, i would have held off for it as it would have lasted me longer than my 7800 GS, then i could have went PCI-E, and also the fact that these cards were not cheap, they were more expensive than much higher end, much faster PCI-E cards, they could have had a faster PCI-E card, and a PCI-E motherboard for the same price, but they were happy paying that expensive price for them, as they thought they were the last ever AGP cards, so the high price was justified, but sadly as we now know thats not the case thanks to Gainward, im not blaming Nvidia for this, as its Gainward who have brought out the GT.