We don't expect a mental crazy launch due to it being so similar to a 680 performance wise, as such circa 100 units, with a lot more on standby should we need them.
Sounds like you are still expecting to shift quite a few.
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We don't expect a mental crazy launch due to it being so similar to a 680 performance wise, as such circa 100 units, with a lot more on standby should we need them.
Somebody upgrading from an older gen Nvidia (4 series) or an older gen AMD/ATI (5 series) card might look at the 7970 Vs the 770 and think the 770 isn't badly priced at all. I am not saying this is the case but it is a possibility.
Yea but for GTX780 at £550 with a £150 premium over the GTX680 launch price, the GTX780 should had been out at the same time as the GTX680 launch, not over 12 months later. Bit-tech's conclusion on the GTX780 was very spot-on to be honest.Is exactly why I paid £550 coming from a 470. For what is so close to a Titan £550 is a steal in my mind. And the 770 seems to good to be true.
Is exactly why I paid £550 coming from a 470. For what is so close to a Titan £550 is a steal in my mind. And the 770 seems to good to be true.
SourceGIGABYTE GeForce GTX 770 WindForce Pictured
GIGABYTE was a little early in making the product page of its upcoming GeForce GTX 770 WindForce OC graphics card live, much to our delight. Here are some of the first pictures of GIGABYTE's creation (model: GV-N770OC-2GD).
The card looks nearly identical to the GeForce GTX 780 WindForce OC we reviewed last week. It uses the same WindForce cooling solution that's designed to handle thermal loads as high as 450W. The specifications tab in the product page gives out clock speeds of this factory-overclocked card, which are 1137 MHz core, 1189 MHz GPU Boost, and 7.00 GHz memory. At this point, we can't tell if the card is based on an NVIDIA reference-design PCB, it lacks NVIDIA markings.
30% margin on GPU, oh I wish and I wish again.
Seriously OcUK buys every manufacturer of VGA direct from the the actual manufacturer in USD dollars. Some we buy at distribution levels as we distribute certain brands, and a lot of the brands we sell more than some distributors.
I can tell you now that for the last 2-3yrs the margin for the Etailor and AIB have vastly reduced, its actually a struggle to break into double digit margin on graphics, especially the high-end big movers. If we manage to make 15% on a new high-end VGA SKU its time to throw a party. Facts are the UK is a fierce and competitive market as such a lot of the Etailors are actually selling at below 5% margin, I know this as I've worked at a few Etailors now.
The only time an Etailor might see 30% on a GPU is for a truly crazy deal or EOL sell out deal to help an AIB clear old stock. Or finally on a very low-end GPU where £2-£3 profit can mean 30% as the revenue value was like £25
At distribution level the margins are even tighter, 99% of the time always single digit margin with a lot of deals being processed at sub 2% margin, its a cut throat market. Big big margins are only seen on items for example such as cables.
Fact is the market has been fierce for the last few years, Etailors margins have reduced across the board, some into single digits, its why so many have disappeared as overheads became great than profits, that eventually leads to them disappearing.
I've being buying, forging relationships, dealing direct with AIB's, NVIDIA, Matrox, AMD, PowerVR, 3DFX in their time for over 10 years, I'm known throughout this industry world wide, I know what I am doing and its my live, there is no such things as the margins you speak off when you include your freight cost (total landed price), we as Etailors just wished there was as do the AIB's.
The people who make the margin is the GPU manufacturer, they make a fortune, see NVIDIA's accounts for proof, can't say the same for AMD though they are getting back on track.
As to the UK sell price, well the GPU manufacturer will suggest an RRP, which Etailors will try to achieve, but the deciding factors are the landed cost of the product, then the margin which the Etailor adds on, which is not even remotely close to 30%.
Onto 770, everyone shall be pleasantly surprised by the price of this product to end user its a great card at an equally great price.
In the past, at least the high price of the Nvidia card could be justified because they were:
a) more capable on gpgpu compute performance
b) had higher memory bus, and
c) most importantly- better gaming performance;
but with the GK104, all three advantages over the competition (comparing to the 79xx cards) had pretty much went out the window, so it's getting even more difficult to justfiy the "Nvidia premium". And that's not even taking the game bundles that AMD's offering into consideration yet.
If this were the case, why were OcUK so happy to swap my £240 MSI Twin Frozr cards (2 of them), for 2x HIS IceQ X² 7950s which you were selling for £280 each at the time?
Surely you weren't happy to make a loss, quite a substantial one as it seems according to your post, just to keep the customer happy?
I just want to say thanks to Gibbo for giving me a kick up the bum to go out and get distributor pricing again - I'd be crazy not to start up selling GPU's at the pricing I've just had in
Nice of you to simply take one sentence out of context and completely ignore the reasoning I provided behind it and pass it off as I'm pulling BS out of thin-air.
In the pass, at least the high price of the Nvidia card could be justified because they were:
a) more capable on gpgpu compute performance
b) had higher memory bus, and
c) most importantly- better gaming performance;
but with the GK104, all three advantages over the competition (comparing to the 79xx cards) had pretty much went out the window, so it's getting even more difficult to justfiy the "Nvidia premium". And that's not even taking the game bundles that AMD's offering into consideration yet.
A friend of mine at a hardware retail store just gave me a head-ups on a Gigabyte GTX 770 pricing, which they received from the distributor today. Price was set to 4100DKK or £471 ! Epic fail IMO. I really hope that price will get adjusted ASAP.
That can't be right, you'd spend a bit more and get a 780!
Gibbo has already hinted around £350 here.
That can't be right, you'd spend a bit more and get a 780!
Gibbo has already hinted around £350 here.
i bet the price range will be 380 for the lowest one up to 470 for an evga one maybe more....
Nope!
2pm all shall be revealed!
NVIDIA gonna clean up, 670 is a bargain, 680 is fairly priced and 770 will surprise you all!