Geforce GTX 780, 770 coming in May

MOOGLEYS · 21 May 2013 at 16:29

Rusty0611 said:
There are a fair few games that will make a pair of 670s squirm. Tomb raider maxed, Crysis 3 maxed, Hitman Absolution maxed to name but a few.

They all run ok for me at 1440p but everyones opinion of ok is different.

Rusty0611 · 21 May 2013 at 16:33

MOOGLEYS said:
They all run ok for me at 1440p but everyones opinion of ok is different.

They don't run OK on true maximum settings. Not even close. You'd be looking at single digit FPS in Tomb Raider alone. Hitman would be OK but Crysis 3 not happening either.

MOOGLEYS · 21 May 2013 at 16:35

Rusty0611 said:
They don't run OK on true maximum settings. Not even close. You'd be looking at single digit FPS in Tomb Raider alone. Hitman would be OK but Crysis 3 not happening either.

Ok. They run fine for me.

NirK · 21 May 2013 at 16:38

Rusty0611 said:
They don't run OK on true maximum settings. Not even close. You'd be looking at single digit FPS in Tomb Raider alone. Hitman would be OK but Crysis 3 not happening either.

But if you turn off that silly hair thing then it is probably fine.

LtMatt · 21 May 2013 at 16:38

Rusty0611 said:
They don't run OK on true maximum settings. Not even close. You'd be looking at single digit FPS in Tomb Raider alone. Hitman would be OK but Crysis 3 not happening either.

+1

Crysis 3 made me realise im going to need xfire sooner or later at 1440p.

Rusty0611 · 21 May 2013 at 16:40

NirK said:
But if you turn off that silly hair thing then it is probably fine.

Yes but then that isn't maximum setting which is what we're discussing. I don't think I really came close to saying that by turning settings down you can't get playable FPS with CF/SLI

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TressFX does affect performance a lot but SSAA 4x and Ultra shadows also dramatically reduces frame rate.

PhysicsMan94 · 21 May 2013 at 16:42

Kaapstad said:
Is there anyone here who has said they will be getting a GTX 780 or 770

Yes, I will definitely be getting one or the other - it's all price dependent now. And if the 770 is priced at a very fair point then I will consider SLI 770s. But, either way, I shall be getting one or two 770s or one 780 - simply due to the fact that I don't actually have a desktop at the moment and so I'm starting fresh with a new build.

MOOGLEYS · 21 May 2013 at 16:44

It all depends on the game, Metro with advanced Physx runs pretty much locked to 60Fps on 670 SLI @ 1440p. I would say Metro looks better than either Crysis or Tomb raider at max settings with the Advanced Physx adding a fair bit.

Gregster · 21 May 2013 at 16:49

PhysicsMan94 said:
Yes, I will definitely be getting one or the other - it's all price dependent now. And if the 770 is priced at a very fair point then I will consider SLI 770s. But, either way, I shall be getting one or two 770s or one 780 - simply due to the fact that I don't actually have a desktop at the moment and so I'm starting fresh with a new build.

I am looking at the 770 scores and seeing a 680 only under the hood. See what prices are and it could well save you money grabbing a pair of 670's or even 680's. I understand the shiny thing, as I am terrible but unless you are big into benchmarking, I would avoid unless the 770 is cheaper than a 680 or the 780 is around the same price as the current 680.

straxusii · 21 May 2013 at 16:56

I expect a number of people may be getting a 780 depending on price given it is really what the 680 was supposed to be.

MOOGLEYS · 21 May 2013 at 16:59

770 needs to be cheaper than 680 but knowing Nvidia and retailer price hikes it won't.

Boomstick777 · 21 May 2013 at 17:01

straxusii said:
I expect a number of people may be getting a 780 depending on price given it is really what the 680 was supposed to be.

Haha I wouldn't mention that, I got flamed big time for saying that GK104 was midrange and GK110 should have been in the 6XX series..

'Runs away from thread'

Arcane · 21 May 2013 at 17:04

3D Vision kills my 670s in most of the new games. I've got until the 28th until my evga step up runs out so will consider a move to 780s if the price to do so isn't horrendous.

Gregster · 21 May 2013 at 17:07

Arcane said:
3D Vision kills my 670s in most of the new games. I've got until the 28th until my evga step up runs out so will consider a move to 780s if the price to do so isn't horrendous.

That is a good shout. Price dependant of course but could be a good move.

Rusty0611 · 21 May 2013 at 17:17

MOOGLEYS said:
It all depends on the game, Metro with advanced Physx runs pretty much locked to 60Fps on 670 SLI @ 1440p. I would say Metro looks better than either Crysis or Tomb raider at max settings with the Advanced Physx adding a fair bit.

But that isn't what you initially said. You said any game but I've provided examples of games which don't run that well maxed out at 2560*1440. I'm not advocating getting Titans or anything to run high levels of AA as the benefits are relatively small at that resolution but more just pointing that there are games which 670s (and 7970s/680s) can't max out at that resolution.

Gregster · 21 May 2013 at 17:20

Movie style textures would be very demanding on any setup.

MOOGLEYS · 21 May 2013 at 17:25

Rusty0611 said:
But that isn't what you initially said. You said any game but I've provided examples of games which don't run that well maxed out at 2560*1440. I'm not advocating getting Titans or anything to run high levels of AA as the benefits are relatively small at that resolution but more just pointing that there are games which 670s (and 7970s/680s) can't max out at that resolution.

I was just pointing out that there are games that look better with more physics effects than the games you mentioned that run fine. It's very game specific. But yes upping the AA to high levels kills FPS. The games you mentioned to me run fine but I'm not using lots of AA as at 1440p it's not really worth it.

I think my idea of max is different to yours....

To me enabling features that kill FPS but make no viewable difference is not running max it's benchmarking.

Rusty0611 · 21 May 2013 at 17:39

MOOGLEYS said:
I was just pointing out that there are games that look better with more physics effects than the games you mentioned that run fine. It's very game specific. But yes upping the AA to high levels kills FPS. The games you mentioned to me run fine but I'm not using lots of AA as at 1440p it's not really worth it.

I think my idea of max is different to yours.... To me enabling features that kill FPS but make no viewable difference is not running max it's benchmarking.

Well, maximum is maximum - there isn't really a debate on that. The benefits of running said settings is debatable but again that's not what my original interruption was about.

AA does still help at 2560*1440 it's just that its effect is reduced dramatically and to most isn't needed. I use small amounts of AA but not 4x in most cases.

Gregster said:
Movie style textures would be very demanding on any setup.

LOL

Man, those movie style textures in Bioshock Infinite weren't that impressive

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Boldie007 · 21 May 2013 at 17:56

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/GTX-780-Nvidia-China,22671.html

Apparently offical specs.

Just tell me how much god damn it!

straxusii · 21 May 2013 at 18:01

So with those prices we got £360 for the 770 and £480 for the 780 including vat.

Sounds about right and back to normal for Nvidia, guess they have managed to make GK110 in vaguely affordable quantities now*

*alledgedly, pinch of salt until we see the confirmed prices