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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
LMAO,people tend to leave money for kids,primarily so they can help them to get onto the housing ladder,pay towards their further education,help towards a wedding,etc - that is what literally 90% of all parents I know have done.
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Assuming I make it to 65, my eldest daughter will be 44 and my youngest daughter 40. So yes, I should be leaving them money to get on the housing ladder, even though they both own their homes (or mortgages at least), they are both in long term relationships and I have money set aside for both weddings (assuming they don't want 20K weddings), I guess I could leave them money for further education but not sure they would go for that in truth.

Terrible post Cat and one of the worst I have seen you make :D
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
LMAO,people tend to leave money for kids,primarily so they can help them to get onto the housing ladder,pay towards their further education,help towards a wedding,etc - that is what literally 90% of all parents I know have done.
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90% the other way around where I live lol.

I expect nothing from my parents. I will and have always paid for most things myself. Not because my parents are poor but because I respect them and prefer to be able to do as much myself as I can. I don’t think it’s fair to expect a house, wedding from them either as I would prefer them to enjoy their money that they have worked all their life for. Bringing me up was cost enough I think :p
 
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Funky-Melon said:
Based on what out of interest? I'm purely speculating I'll admit but as an electronics engineer & PCB designer myself, I'm struggling to see how outside of a few bob here and there on component costs, they commend such a price hike other than profit margins?
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775mm2 12nm chip costs the same to produce as a 601mm2 28nm chip? Its about a 30% reduction in number of chips per wafer, plus a 12nm wafer is going to be more expensive now than a 28nm wafer was in the run up to the 900 series launch, and then potentially yield issues, it wouldn't surprise me if a working TU102 chip is roughly twice as much or more to produce as a GM200
 
andybird123 said:
775mm2 12nm chip costs the same to produce as a 601mm2 28nm chip? Its about a 30% reduction in number of chips per wafer, plus a 12nm wafer is going to be more expensive now than a 28nm wafer was in the run up to the 900 series launch, and then potentially yield issues, it wouldn't surprise me if a working TU102 chip is roughly twice as much or more to produce as a GM200
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And they would have had those same production costs jumping from the 700 series to the 900 series, 900 series to 1000 series and so on.....Nothing new there.
 
On a different note, those berating others for driving up RRP.

You reckon? lol :D

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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
LMAO,people tend to leave money for kids,primarily so they can help them to get onto the housing ladder,pay towards their further education,help towards a wedding,etc - that is what literally 90% of all parents I know have done.
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Never had anything off parents than 0% loans I Paid back for my first car.
Good I will never have kids can buy this overpriced gpus IF i want or feel need to :D
 
What i love in all these RTX demos more so the
Atomic Heart running with Nvidia RTX
is they try not to move at all or very little with RTX on ..you can clearly see the FPS tank with RTS on ..yes i understand its demanding but still ... i am all for new tech moving forward but these prices are a little rich my tastes .. i will stick with my Amiga for ray-tracing thx :P
 
Panos said:
The tech needs a decade still. When hardware ray tracing came out by AMD in 2013 alongside the Hawaii GPU, it was greatly ignored for gaming, because the hardware of that period (R9 290X & 780Ti) was incapable to deliver gaming experience. Fast forward 5 years to 2018, and we see why it didn't gain traction in the gaming, because even right now is too far away still. At least of another 10 years of performance gains before we have the grunt power to play 4K 60fps with 200rays per pixel.
And that 200 rays per pixel is significant, because is the amount of rays on the Nvidia cinematic videos.

True we can have 1 ray per pixel at 4K 60fps even Vega 64 and GTX1080Ti can do it (that is 4.88Gigarays), but not 200 rays per pixel because that would require 200Gigarays before noise fixing, and a total 2000Gigarays with that applies. Atm we need 200 RTX2080Tis to achieve that perf.

Of course there are sacrifices to be made right now. Metro Exodus should have ~8rays per pixel (plus the 10x on noise fixing), to render 1080p at 60fps.
So far way from the cinematic quality of 200rays per pixel.
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beany_bot said:
Emm, well count me in that group then. I would much rather I left my kids a decent inheritance than spent it all on toys!
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Gregster said:
Assuming I make it to 65, my eldest daughter will be 44 and my youngest daughter 40. So yes, I should be leaving them money to get on the housing ladder, even though they both own their homes (or mortgages at least), they are both in long term relationships and I have money set aside for both weddings (assuming they don't want 20K weddings), I guess I could leave them money for further education but not sure they would go for that in truth.
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Terrible post Gregster and one of the worst you have made :D

BTW:

When your whole life flashes before your eyes, how much of it do you want to not have ray tracing?
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If you are going to die before 65,get those purchases in!

Funny when beany bot made that, then people started saying a hobby was more important than their own families. LMAO.

BTW,JHH's own family must be thanking you for their mahoosive inheritence. Must be awesome to be them especially since he is Asian and they tend to help their kids a lot.

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harney said:
What i love in all these RTX demos more so the
Atomic Heart running with Nvidia RTX
is they try not to move at all or very little with RTX on ..you can clearly see the FPS tank with RTS on ..yes i understand its demanding but still ... i am all for new tech moving forward but these prices are a little rich my tastes .. i will stick with my Amiga for ray-tracing thx :p
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Given that the demos so far appear to have been on 2080ti it does make me wonder what framerates we will be seeing on 2070.
 
Guess its all relative at the end of the day, for your enjoyment.. i wont spend £1300 on an Nvidia product, but im happy to put £450k on a new (old historic) sailing boat, mind you that benefits me and 16 other people at once (crew limits for racing). I just cant fathom lobbing £1300 on a GPU, hell i wont even pay £600 for the Vega 64, at £450 is a bit more reasonable.
 
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