Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

BobShark · 8 Jul 2018 at 15:22

WantoN said:
1170 £500
1180 £700
1180ti £900

That about what I reckon, give or take £50.

I think they know a £1000 1280 isn’t going to sell. And yes they can charge what they way, but only if people buy them.

I'd agree with that pretty much, £1k/£1.5k for what won't even be the full fat turing GPU is clickbait ftw.

Kaapstad · 8 Jul 2018 at 16:06

scubes said:
Are you sure you don’t work for nvidia Kaap lol.

Reality|Bites said:
no reply...hmmmmm

Definitely don't work for NVidia.

I think I would rather work for AMD as life would be more interesting.

NVidia has become fat and complacent with their current position in the GPU market, unfortunately working for these type of companies is very dull if you want to make a contribution. On the otherhand if all you care about is a paycheck for doing the absolute minimum then such companies are fine until their rivals get their act together and everything goes pair shaped.

bru · 8 Jul 2018 at 16:07

Well as we all know graphics cards used to cost £10 and £20, for midrange and top end cards, so they have eventually climbed to the lofty heights that are being suggested and will keep going up, oh wait no they haven't. :rolleyes:

GTX480 $499
GTX580 $499
GTX680 $500
GTX780 $649

GTX780ti $699
GTX980 $549
GTX 980ti $649
GTX1080 $699
GTX1080ti $699

The 780ti was launched at the same price the 1080ti was 5 years latter.

R9 290x $549
R9 390x $429
R9 Furyx $649
RX480 $239
RX580 $249
RXVega air $499
RXVega LC $699

nashathedog · 8 Jul 2018 at 16:25

bru said:
Well as we all know graphics cards used to cost £10 and £20, for midrange and top end cards, so they have eventually climbed to the lofty heights that are being suggested and will keep going up, oh wait no they haven't.

GTX480 $499
GTX580 $499
GTX680 $500
GTX780 $649

GTX780ti $699
GTX980 $549
GTX 980ti $649
GTX1080 $699
GTX1080ti $699

The 780ti was launched at the same price the 1080ti was 5 years latter.

R9 290x $549
R9 390x $429
R9 Furyx $649
RX480 $239
RX580 $249
RXVega air $499
RXVega LC $699

What they charge in the US is irrelevant here, what matters is what we get charged in the UK not rrp's that are ignored more often than not. I don't care that a Vega LC should be $699 when I'm being charged £800.

LoadsaMoney · 8 Jul 2018 at 16:48

NVIDIA Next-Gen GPUs Can Make Use of AI To Enable Much More Realistic, Real-time, AI Powered Hairworks Models in Upcoming AAA Titles

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-gpus-ai-rendering-power-hairworks-aaa-games/

bru · 8 Jul 2018 at 16:50

nashathedog said:
What they charge in the US is irrelevant here, what matters is what we get charged in the UK not rrp's that are ignored more often than not. I don't care that a Vega LC should be $699 when I'm being charged £800.

Well on that front some of the prices charged by retailers over here also have nothing to do with NVidia or AMD, so people moaning about NVidia rising prices or the Vega LC costing £800 is irrelevant as well. :rolleyes:

TNA · 8 Jul 2018 at 17:22

nashathedog said:
What they charge in the US is irrelevant here, what matters is what we get charged in the UK not rrp's that are ignored more often than not. I don't care that a Vega LC should be $699 when I'm being charged £800.

I disagree. It is not the graphics card manufacturers fault our currency is not as strong as it was 10-15 years ago. It is also not their fault how much VAT we get changed. It is not their fault retailers here choose to price gauge. Those factors are not in their control and can make a huge difference in the price we pay here. End of the day when companies here buy them in dollars and that is what they cost.

The only reason Vega cost a lot more than rrp was because of demand due to miners. Also we only get so much stock allocation in the UK, OcUK and other retailers knew with such small supply vs demand they could gauge, and that they did.

bru · 8 Jul 2018 at 17:28

Yup and after looking more into it.

In the end the $699 that the LC Vega launched at back in august 1017 and the at the time exchange rate of 1.28 and don't forget VAT that gives you £741, so the £800 you listed was not all that unreasonable and definitely not down to AMD.

Telecaster · 8 Jul 2018 at 18:16

nashathedog said:
What they charge in the US is irrelevant here, what matters is what we get charged in the UK not rrp's that are ignored more often than not. I don't care that a Vega LC should be $699 when I'm being charged £800.

I think you're too daft to own one anyway with that comment, so not something you'll be buying.

Gerard · 8 Jul 2018 at 18:48

LoadsaMoney said:
NVIDIA Next-Gen GPUs Can Make Use of AI To Enable Much More Realistic, Real-time, AI Powered Hairworks Models in Upcoming AAA Titles

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-gpus-ai-rendering-power-hairworks-aaa-games/

Oh Jesus Christ, what is it with amd and nvidia spanking the monkey to hair constantly?

V F · 8 Jul 2018 at 20:15

Gerard said:
Oh Jesus Christ, what is it with amd and nvidia spanking the monkey to hair constantly?

Just in time for the new Tomb Raider. :rolleyes:

Gerard · 8 Jul 2018 at 20:20

V F said:
Just in time for the new Tomb Raider.

They should not bother with hair and get to work on some shoulder boulder jiggling physics

V F · 8 Jul 2018 at 20:23

That'll be deemed as discrimination.

passifid · 8 Jul 2018 at 21:18

Nvidia LOVE hair because hair makes the benchmarks high compared to AMD. Don't get me wrong i've got a 1080ti but they do this specifically so that they can make AMD performance TANK for a very minor graphical improvement.
Its always been their way since Crysis 2. And AMD are no saints either.

BS Dave · 8 Jul 2018 at 21:26

bru said:
Well as we all know graphics cards used to cost £10 and £20, for midrange and top end cards, so they have eventually climbed to the lofty heights that are being suggested and will keep going up, oh wait no they haven't.

GTX480 $499
GTX580 $499
GTX680 $500
GTX780 $649

GTX780ti $699
GTX980 $549
GTX 980ti $649
GTX1080 $699
GTX1080ti $699

The 780ti was launched at the same price the 1080ti was 5 years latter.

R9 290x $549
R9 390x $429
R9 Furyx $649
RX480 $239
RX580 $249
RXVega air $499
RXVega LC $699

Sorry but what you’re trying to say is rubbish. 680 was not the high end part nvidia just sat on the 780 as they had no competition. So you see a jump from the 580 to 780 of $150.780ti was just Titan of that gen (all be it with half the memory)

The 780 to 980ti prices stay the same ( top end part with cut down shaders and 1/2 the memory of the Titan).

Mid ranges prices jump from $500 for the 680 to $ 550 for the 980 to $699 for the 1080.

Copesman · 8 Jul 2018 at 21:27

Id love hair 2 but im as bold as. To be honest just want 4k at 130hz max setting most games or i wont be upgrading my 1080 so might have to wait for the 1180ti

4K8KW10 · 8 Jul 2018 at 21:34

Gerard said:
Oh Jesus Christ, what is it with amd and nvidia spanking the monkey to hair constantly?

Perhaps, they don't see that their entire models need improvement and for some reason stress on the hair :confused:

Maybe hairs annoy them lol

Gerard said:
They should not bother with hair and get to work on some shoulder boulder jiggling physics

Yes, the physics of human models need to be improved - because they act as artificial mannequins.

Gerard · 8 Jul 2018 at 21:39

V F said:
That'll be deemed as discrimination.

They can deem away, i want bouncy juggs!

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 8 Jul 2018 at 21:40

bru said:
Well as we all know graphics cards used to cost £10 and £20, for midrange and top end cards, so they have eventually climbed to the lofty heights that are being suggested and will keep going up, oh wait no they haven't.

GTX480 $499 - 529MM2(top consumer bin)
GTX580 $499 - 529MM2(top consumer bin)
GTX680 $500 - 294MM2
GTX780 $649 - 561MM2(not top consumer bin)
Geforce Titan $1000 - 561MM2(not top consumer bin)
GTX780ti $699 - 561MM2(top consumer bin)

GTX980 $549 - 398MM2
GTX 980ti $649 - 610MM2(not top consumer bin)
Geforce Titan X $1200 -610mm2(top consumer bin)
GTX1080 $699 - 314MM2
GTX1080ti $699 - 471MM2 (not top consumer bin)
Geforce Titan X(Pascal) $1200 - 471MM2(not top consumer bin)
Geforce Titan Xp(Pascal) $1200 - 471MM2(top consumer bin)

FTFY!

You are missing,that a big change happened from Fermi to Kepler. The top bin large die chips were first reserved for the Titan cards,whereas upto the GTX580 era,the 80 series were the best consumer bins.Also,the flagship Titan cards cost much more than the GTX580,and so did the GTX780TI. AMD,also copied the Titan branding with their Fury and Vega cards,which meant they could have higher pricing tiers.

You also missed the price rise with AMD,they introduced a new tier with the HD6000 series in the HD6900 series,and then the price of their flagships,also rose too. The HD7970 was much more expensive than the HD5870 and HD6970 in USD despite similar chip sizes.

HD5870 $380 - 334MM2(top consumer bin)
HD6970 $370 -389MM2(top consumer bin)
HD7970 $550 -352MM2(top consumer bin)
HD7970GE $500 - 352MM2(top consumer bin)
R9 290X $550 - 438MM2(top consumer bin)
Fury X $650 - 596MM2(top consumer bin)
Vega 64 LC $700 - 486MM2(top consumer bin)

The fact is since the GTX480/GTX580 and HD5870/HD6970 days the top bin consumer cards,have become more and more expensive for each company. Now they use Titan and alternate branding. Before these cards should have been the 80/80TI or 800 series cards of their generation.

JediFragger · 8 Jul 2018 at 21:46

Gerard said:
Oh Jesus Christ, what is it with amd and nvidia spanking the monkey to hair constantly?

I know it's pathetic, don't they know every shaves it nowadays!????