Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

StarShock · 24 Jul 2018 at 09:20

Pretty sure there have been rumors saying we'll see them every month since march, and probably before. Stopped watch and all that

Feels like a fools errand to put any stock in anything other than the official.

I mean even if someone releases a leak with everything spot on today, we're not going to know its spot on till official release, and we're not going to be able to get our hands on them any sooner

TNA · 24 Jul 2018 at 10:13

StarShock said:
Pretty sure there have been rumors saying we'll see them every month since march, and probably before. Stopped watch and all that Feels like a fools errand to put any stock in anything other than the official.

I mean even if someone releases a leak with everything spot on today, we're not going to know its spot on till official release, and we're not going to be able to get our hands on them any sooner

Exactly. This is why I just take the approach of it be released when it's released. No matter how much fake news one reads, it will not change that. That said reading these threads can be fun sometimes

MasterOC · 24 Jul 2018 at 17:37

Nvidia email came through , now shipping GTX cards with free SSDs , well if that’s not a way to clear there current backlog of cards ready for new ones I don’t know what is .... new GPUs soooooooon ..... ish

bigmike20vt · 24 Jul 2018 at 18:26

Only 1050ti and 1060 afaik.
IF a 500gb one came free with a £650 1080ti and crew 2 then *maybe* I would be tempted

(Probably not tho at this point I just want am 1180 damn it)

That 1180+ tho............?

Legend · 24 Jul 2018 at 18:28

bigmike20vt said:
That 1180+ tho............?

I wouldn't get too excited... either this is some new stretegy for Nvidia, or more than likely it's the third party cards. The logic of releasing a more powerful card after just 1 month is very strange.

LoadsaMoney · 24 Jul 2018 at 18:45

Gerard said:
Dunno if this was posted before, just noticed it on hardocp. Starts at 40 seconds its all random waffle pish before that.

Gerard · 24 Jul 2018 at 19:04

Legend said:
I wouldn't get too excited... either this is some new stretegy for Nvidia, or more than likely it's the third party cards. The logic of releasing a more powerful card after just 1 month is very strange.

When has logic ever played a role in gpu's? People on here "upgraded" from a 980 ti to a basic 1080 (more a side grade at best).

Legend · 24 Jul 2018 at 19:09

Gerard said:
When has logic ever played a role in gpu's? People on here "upgraded" from a 980 ti to a basic 1080 (more a side grade at best).

Consumer logic is not the same as business logic... the former is certainly lacking I agree lol! The point is that when Nvidia announce these cards (end of August we hope), and if they say a more powerful card is coming just 4 weeks after the initial card, how many of the less powerful ones do you think they'll sell? A lot fewer is the answer. It would have to be a different card altogether, for a different buyer... an AIO might be it, or something other than their blower FE style... but then that strategy may have the AIB partners up in arms. Nvidia can do whatever they want though. We shall just have to wait and see...

HRL · 24 Jul 2018 at 20:55

bigmike20vt said:
Only 1050ti and 1060 afaik.
IF a 500gb one came free with a £650 1080ti and crew 2 then *maybe* I would be tempted

(Probably not tho at this point I just want am 1180 damn it)

That 1180+ tho............?

Another retailer, something you do with a copier, is doing 1080’s with 500Gb SSD’s I believe.

It does appear to be an effort to clear stock though if it’s backed by Nvidia. Good news.

TNA · 24 Jul 2018 at 22:46

@LoadsaMoney

Well, at least you help propagate it

Gerard · 24 Jul 2018 at 23:58

MasterOC said:
Nvidia email came through , now shipping GTX cards with free SSDs , well if that’s not a way to clear there current backlog of cards ready for new ones I don’t know what is .... new GPUs soooooooon ..... ish

Seen that earlier, "upgrade to a 1050 or 1060 and get a free ssd", yeah ill just ditch my titan x and vega for a 1050 just for the ssd, woot!

Maybe Jensen can run a giveaway competition to shift the excess stock (as if), an alleged 300k cards won't move that easily with people expecting a new card sometime in the next few months.

AthlonXP1800 · 25 Jul 2018 at 00:03

HWiNFO 64 Adds Support For Next-Generation NVIDIA Graphics Cards

https://wccftech.com/hwinfo-64-adds-support-for-next-generation-nvidia-graphics-cards/

HWiNFO 64 adds support for GV102 and GV104 so these chips is based on Volta architecture, not Turing.

Here we go again Volta or Turing??? :confused:

Maybe Turing is all FAKE NEWS over the last few months.

x-st · 25 Jul 2018 at 00:06

The rumors indicate that the cards will probably have a higher MSRP than usual – since that is the only way NVIDIA can maintain its revenue stream with the backdrop of the stagnant crypto market.

Another stupid question - the revenue stream generated by mining/crypto was abnormal. Why should Nvidia expect it to remain at that high level and price new cards according to those inflated expectations rather than price at a level that would relate to what we've seen in the past? (other than because they can and chumps will pay)

Legend · 25 Jul 2018 at 00:14

AthlonXP1800 said:
HWiNFO 64 adds support for GV102 and GV104 so these chips is based on Volta architecture, not Turing.

Here we go again Volta or Turing???

Maybe Turing is all FAKE NEWS over the last few months.

Did anyone seriously think it would be Turing though? Never occured to me for one second, and it was always going to be Volta as far as I thought. It's been around over a year now, so plenty of time to repurpose for the 11-series. It offers the required bump over Pascal and they've still got Turing in their back pocket for next year. Perhaps if AMD had stepped up their game and done something amazing, we might have seen something different, but that was never going to happen, and Nvidia knew it.

Rroff · 25 Jul 2018 at 00:27

Legend said:
Did anyone seriously think it would be Turing though?

People were saying Ampere before it became Turing.

Legend said:
and it was always going to be Volta as far as I thought.

I had information - over a year ago now mind - that suggested Pascal would not be followed by Volta on GeForce - although in hindsight it looks like they were more talking about architectural stuff such as the Tensor cores. I'm a bit out of the loop at the moment - not really heard anything in awhile other than some vague talk about a release in June (EDIT: Unless that was the 1050 3GB ick) which doesn't seem to have happened and become a bit bored with the whole thing given how long Pascal has been stretched out and the underwhelming efforts from AMD.

Legend · 25 Jul 2018 at 00:35

Rroff said:
People were saying Ampere before it became Turing.

I had information - over a year ago now mind - that suggested Pascal would not be followed by Volta on GeForce - although in hindsight it looks like they were more talking about architectural stuff such as the Tensor cores. I'm a bit out of the loop at the moment - not really heard anything in awhile other than some vague talk about a release in June (EDIT: Unless that was the 1050 3GB ick) which doesn't seem to have happened and become a bit bored with the whole thing given how long Pascal has been stretched out and the underwhelming efforts from AMD.

I figured once it was made clear a while ago AMD had nothing, Volta would the next logical step... unless AMD did miraculously pull something out of the hat which they obviously haven't and won't now. I think Nvidia have stretched things out as far as they can... 2 years breaks the record for longest gap between series I think. Arguably they don't NEED to release new cards now, but on the other hand I think they do. They want to keep their engineers busy, as well as marketing, PR departments etc. There's only so long they can keep spinning Pascal, and I think they've wrung every last drop from it now. The whole mining bubble hasn't helped matters though, if rumours of all the excess stock they've accumulated are true. That probably will mean the 11-series are priced a bit higher than they would be otherwise so that they can clear all that stock, but this won't last... it just means those first adopters will get stung, which is always the way. :rolleyes:

bru · 25 Jul 2018 at 00:35

Now GV is the prefix for the Volta series but this is something that has an easy explanation. Companies can easily issue inaccurate names against machine ids for the purpose of obfuscation. We have seen this before in the days when shipping manifests were still public (Zauba anyone?) when NVIDIA started hiding the names of their upcoming graphics cards and are probably seeing it again now. If this actually was Volta (or a lighter version thereof), a more accurate naming scheme would have been GV204 and 202

Interesting all the same, all we know for a fact is new cards are coming, hopefully sooner rather than latter.

Maybe it will be Volta and Turing will go on the roadmap for future use.

Rroff · 25 Jul 2018 at 00:45

Legend said:
Volta would the next logical step

One thing with Volta is that design wise it is kind of "out of band" with all the changes around the time of Maxwell, etc. (and even a bit before that) it wasn't designed in the normal progression or as a straight up replacement for a previous architecture with the primary design focus being to meet certain industry applications nVidia had contracts for. That isn't to say they couldn't rework the architecture for GeForce use.

Gerard · 25 Jul 2018 at 00:59

Legend said:
Perhaps if AMD had stepped up their game and done something amazing, we might have seen something different, but that was never going to happen, and Nvidia knew it.

Stepped up their game when they were busy developing ryzen and that's where the lions share of the resources were going. How exactly could they have stepped up their game? You can only go with what you've got.

TheRealDeal · 25 Jul 2018 at 01:01

W

Rroff said:
One thing with Volta is that design wise it is kind of "out of band" with all the changes around the time of Maxwell, etc. (and even a bit before that) it wasn't designed in the normal progression or as a straight up replacement for a previous architecture with the primary design focus being to meet certain industry applications nVidia had contracts for. That isn't to say they couldn't rework the architecture for GeForce use.

Even though the above evidence is saying the code name is gv104/102 do you think the gaming parts could still be ampere or turing as there might be differences. From what we have seen from Titan V it's not an impressive step in performance. Pascal with those specs would likely be faster.