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Geforce Titan rumours.

Rusty0611 said:
Eh?
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You don't usually slip like that with your memory and I've seen you in loads of debates where you can be quite aggressive/passionate. With LtMatt questioning you, I felt the presence of something happening around me and logged on to see what happened after checking the news :p.

Sadly the special one wasn't in a playing mood :(.

LtMatt said:
Depends which part you land on. ;) Some of those chair legs make mighty fine attachments according to Mrs LtMatt.
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LMAO I fear for you when the missus gets all experimental on your literal buttocks :D.
 
B1gbeard said:
In which case yields can't really be used as an excuse for the ridiculous pricing until things become clearer.
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Remember its a business to make money and people will make all types of claims to make money.

Im not saying there right or wrong but i approach things like this with an open mind.

Ive been gaming since 1981 so i have a lot of experience.

I guess time will tell.

Just like it always is something bigger and better is always lurking around the corner to blow the latest technology clean out of the water.
Normally in the short term with GPU's and longterm with CPU's.
 
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B1gbeard said:
In which case yields can't really be used as an excuse for the ridiculous pricing until things become clearer.
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Well "ridiculous" is a subjective term. There is the economics of it as well which should be considered. It may be "ridiculous" to you but this is where nVidia feel they can achieve the maximum profit by selling an appropriate amount of units at this margin of profit.

If they aren't happy with the returns when it goes to market then they can either drop the price or wait it out.
 
Armageus said:
I would think NVIDIA have been making Graphics cards for longer than that, that and they have an idea as to how to meet thermal guidelines for Rack and blade compute servers... but I'm sure you know more with regards to thermal engineering.



Do you not think that if there was a problem other sites would have picked up on, especially given the lengthy embargo and presumably rigid testing guidelines NVIDIA would likely have provided reviewers with.

Could be as simple as them not understanding the Boost settings, as I believe you can specify temperature or power constraint as the priority one to control throttling (Certainly looks like it in the MSI Afterburner version Guru3d showed).
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Why bother to read reviews??

So basically by your weird logic,Nvidia has no problems ever in Hardware or software. Considering that both AMD and Nvidia have had their fair share of issues,I think not.

So when The Techreport reported AMD stuttering and no other site did,it was all wrong. But funny how AMD confirmed it and is working on fixes. Nvidia V-Sync stuttering which was also fixed??

What about the bumps issue or AMD GSOD?? All issues,which the companies eventually worked on,once they were highlighted.

OTH,I don't have a religious trust in such companies.

The same website even tested the differences between the same models of GTX680 cards,to see the effects of the non-deterministic boost. It was upto 6% difference IIRCwith different samples of the same card under the same conditions.

Moreover,Hardware.fr are are a very good site and are the major French review site. They know what they are doing.

Its funny how you go an about Tesla and Quadro cards,which have far higher certification standards than consumer parts and are clocked lower. They are the best chips,and are conservative clocked to meet TDP targets stringently.

Even the cooler is different on the K20X.

Armageus said:
Also not why it is necessary to post 2 identical comments in 2 different threads.
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Because,you did more or less the same.

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However,this will go around in circles with you,so I agree to disagree with you and thats that!!
 
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You guys seen this article on PC Gamer? Here is what they say benchmarks are-

All these single-card benchmarks were run on an open testbench with a stock-clocked Intel Core i7-3770K @ 3.5GHz, with 16GB RAM. The game settings were set to the highest available, at 2560×1600 wit 4x AA.

DirectX 11 tessellation performance

Heaven 3.0 – FPS: higher is better
Nvidia GTX Titan – 55.6
EVGA GTX 690 – 70.6
Club3D HD 7990 – 65
Sapphire HD 7970 GHz – 38.3
EVGA GTX 680 – 41

DirectX 11 gaming performance

Batman: Arkham City – FPS: higher is better
Nvidia GTX Titan – 98
EVGA GTX 690 – 106
Club3D HD 7990 – 89
Sapphire HD 7970 GHz – 68
EVGA GTX 680 – 65

DiRT Showdown – FPS: higher is better
Nvidia GTX Titan – 64
EVGA GTX 690 – 70
Club3D HD 7990 – 78
Sapphire HD 7970 GHz – 67
EVGA GTX 680 – 48

Max Payne 3 – FPS: higher is better
Nvidia GTX Titan – 43
EVGA GTX 690 – 56
Club3D HD 7990 – 50
Sapphire HD 7970 GHz – 38
EVGA GTX 680 – 30

Sleeping Dogs – FPS: higher is better
Nvidia GTX Titan – 32
EVGA GTX 690 – 38
Club3D HD 7990 – 47
Sapphire HD 7970 GHz – 28
EVGA GTX 680 – 22

DirectX 11 1080p performance

Shogun 2 – FPS: higher is better
Nvidia GTX Titan – 108
EVGA GTX 690 – 124
Club3D HD 7990 – 127
Sapphire HD 7970 GHz – 89
EVGA GTX 680 – 85

PCGamer value metrics

Heaven 3.0 – £/FPS: lower is better
Nvidia GTX Titan – £14.91
EVGA GTX 690 – £10.62
Club3D HD 7990 – £10.77
Sapphire HD 7970 GHz – £8.88
EVGA GTX 680 – £9.54

The law of diminishing returns is alive and well in three-way SLI

SLI performance

These SLI benchmarks were run on an X79 setup running an eight-core (sixteen threads!) Intel Xeon E5-2687W @ 3.1GHz, again running at 2560×1600 with 4x AA.

DirectX 11 tessellation performance

Heaven 3.0 – FPS: higher is better
GTX Titan – 55.6
Two-way Titan SLI – 97.8
Three-way Titan SLI – 137.2

DirectX 11 gaming performance

DiRT Showdown – FPS: higher is better
GTX Titan – 64
Two-way Titan SLI – 81
Three-way Titan SLI – 93

Max Payne 3 – FPS: higher is better
GTX Titan – 43
Two-way Titan SLI – 72
Three-way Titan SLI – 94
Verdict
88
 
£840? I guess I'll be keeping my decrepit old GTX680 for another year or so.

I remember the heady days of having actual disposable income... I earn so much more now than I did a few years back, but expenses of life just seem to spiral up twice as fast. I can't remember the last time that I had any money spare at the end of the month to buy something for myself. It's been a couple of years at least...
 
J.D said:
You don't usually slip like that with your memory and I've seen you in loads of debates where you can be quite aggressive/passionate. With LtMatt questioning you, I felt the presence of something happening around me and logged on to see what happened after checking the news :p.

Sadly the special one wasn't in a playing mood :(.
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Indeed. But not about AMDs high prices at that point in time, so on yer bike! :p :D

As above: my whinging was more to do with the price they were charging in relation to the amount of time it took to release better drivers. I think that was a fair point to make even if the AMD socialists around here closed rank and shouted at me.
 
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Duff-Man said:
£840? I guess I'll be keeping my decrepit old GTX680 for another year or so.

I remember the heady days of having actual disposable income... I earn so much more now than I did a few years back, but expenses of life just seem to spiral up twice as fast. I can't remember the last time that I had any money spare at the end of the month to buy something for myself. It's been a couple of years at least...
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It gets worse when you have children... I went without for years and years but now they have all grown up and both working, I seem to do well at the end of each month.
 
Rusty0611 said:
Well "ridiculous" is a subjective term. There is the economics of it as well which should be considered. It may be "ridiculous" to you but this is where nVidia feel they can achieve the maximum profit by selling an appropriate amount of units at this margin of profit.

If they aren't happy with the returns when it goes to market then they can either drop the price or wait it out.
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I am exactly the sort of person this card is aimed at yet I've had 2 sitting in my basket since 2pm but have resisted so far.

I have a pretty good grasp of economics but I think there is more to it than that or at least Nvidia should be looking at it from a slightly different angle.

Enthusiasts who can afford them will buy them, I fall into this category. There is also a category that you hear about who will buy anything Nvidia. I haven't come across these people myself.

You also have a grey area filled with people who may have been interested depending on price or will not buy because they have seen this before from Nvidia. I imagine it is a fairly big group. This is the demographic that maybe Nvidia should consider.

My basket remains incomplete because bit by bit, Nvidia have chipped away at my good will. I've always bought their cards but more and more, I feel that I am being taken for a ride.

Longterm it could have an impact on them. Maybe not, maybe they don't care.
 
gregster said:
It gets worse when you have children... I went without for years and years but now they have all grown up and both working, I seem to do well at the end of each month.
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Tbh when you have children, especially when they're young you have to put expensive hobbies aside, anyone seriously considering spending that much when they have young kids/other priorities needs a reality check unless they have money growing out of their ears.

Good to see even an upgrade junkie like you could drop the hobby when you knew it was right :)
 
Duff-Man said:
£840? I guess I'll be keeping my decrepit old GTX680 for another year or so.

I remember the heady days of having actual disposable income... I earn so much more now than I did a few years back, but expenses of life just seem to spiral up twice as fast. I can't remember the last time that I had any money spare at the end of the month to buy something for myself. It's been a couple of years at least...
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LOL! GTX680 is a great card!

It still better than what most gamers have!!
 
B1gbeard said:
I am exactly the sort of person this card is aimed at yet I've had 2 sitting in my basket since 2pm but have resisted so far.

I have a pretty good grasp of economics but I think there is more to it than that or at least Nvidia should be looking at it from a slightly different angle.

Enthusiasts who can afford them will buy them, I fall into this category. There is also a category that you hear about who will buy anything Nvidia. I haven't come across these people myself.

You also have a grey area filled with people who may have been interested depending on price or will not buy because they have seen this before from Nvidia. I imagine it is a fairly big group. This is the demographic that maybe Nvidia should consider.

My basket remains incomplete because bit by bit, Nvidia have chipped away at my good will. I've always bought their cards but more and more, I feel that I am being taken for a ride.

Longterm it could have an impact on them. Maybe not, maybe they don't care.
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True. But we'll know from the price whether or not these are moving at a rate at which nVidia are happy with. If they fly off the shelves then unfortunately it will remain the same.

Especially, as essentially it is unrivalled as a single GPU.
 
Rusty0611 said:
Indeed. But not about AMDs high prices at that point in time, so on yer bike! :p :D

As above: my whinging was more to do with the price they were charging in relation to the amount of time it took to release better drivers. I think that was a fair point to make even if the AMD socialists around here closed rank and shouted at me.
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Even though you argued and never acknowledged the fact that performance was always there when they were both overclocked and that matching out the box performance was available June/July when you kept pointing out performance not arriving since November/December?


Spoffle was certainly onto something about some looking for censorship while having civil discussions.:(
 
I'd say 90% of the posts in this thread are people bickering about why they think it's a stupid card/price or not.

Greg has explained umpteen times why he wants one, it's perfectly valid, he has the money. If other people owning extreme hardware upsets you then never go to XS. I enjoy living vicariously through other posters' rig pics and benchies. But they won't feel like uploading them if all they get is aggro from luddite skinflints.
 
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