Yet no one is addressing the massive problems we have with adult social care. Tory/labour they are basically different sides of the same coin, the problem is the capitalist system and a society built on greed mainly thanks to thatcher. No one seem to do anything to help the disadvantaged it's about bribing large sectors of voters Tory = bribe rich and old people, labour = working classes. The middle ground gets ****** with paying for it all
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Yet no one is addressing the massive problems we have with adult social care. Tory/labour they are basically different sides of the same coin, the problem is the capitalist system and a society built on greed mainly thanks to thatcher. No one seem to do anything to help the disadvantaged it's about bribing large sectors of voters Tory = bribe rich and old people, labour = working classes. The middle ground gets ****** with paying for it all
Don't forget the Lib Dems getting one of their policies through! Triple Lock increases on pensions paid for by slashing working benefits for the young.
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The issue is the under 25's tend not to vote and the largest block are the over 55's so whoever wants to the run country will chase the grey vote.
The downside is we are now top heavy with more over 60s who have lived a very comfortable existence and want to protect what they have got. However do you think they care about the decades of debt that has / will be racked up after they have gone ?
I actually haven't voted the second time because I'm so 1337 at democracy.
"Accurate results 120% of the time."
Is this really true? Obviously they're not a representative sample but the pensioners I've talked to are extremely concerned about their children and grandchildren and will frequently put themselves out to ensure the well-being of their descendants.
There's a difference between pensioners directly helping out blood relatives and pensioners being okay with the government laying a fair proportion of austerity on to them. Most are happy to do the former (if they can afford it) but unhappy at the prospect of the latter.
I don't think anyone really wants to see unfair changes made, but surely means-testing has to become a feature of pensioner benefits? How much taxpayer money is wasted annually on those pensioners who don't need free bus passes, winter fuel allowance and a state pension? I don't think anyone really agrees that it's a fair system, but it is unfortunately one that's difficult to police without getting in to politically sensitive areas (e.g. should someone have to sell their home to fund their living costs in old age? Or is property exempt from any means testing?).
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Most of you are going to vote UKIP. If thats because of immigrants then watch this:
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I think many will vote UKIP out of exasperation with main parties.
That guys a hypocritical knob of the highest order .
This common misconception that UKIP is against all immigrants is a lie spun by people like him , the LibLabCon and just self-righteous aholes
I would say i'm voting UKIP more as a protest than because I think they'll do a good job.
I just can't bring myself to vote for anyone else really. I don't trust any of them to keep to pre-election promises or do what is right for the country. What a sad, sorry state British politics is in, it's utterly pathetic.
At least leaving the EU would solve one of the (admittedly smaller) problems with UK politics.
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"What a sad, sorry state British politics is in, it's utterly pathetic."
Mate whole EU is in pathetic state.
Mate whole EU is in pathetic state.
Thanks for that, i think you just made more people vote UKIP
Russell Bland is his own worst enemy!
I think we can be thankful for small mercies that GD on OCUK isn't reflective of the wider country in general!
I think we can be thankful for small mercies that GD on OCUK isn't reflective of the wider country in general!
Last time we weren't massively off tbh.
I am approaching pension age (62) and agree that most pensioner benefits should be means tested (or even depreciated over time).
I do not agree that the state pension should be. It establishes a basic income for everyone and probably well over 99% of people would need it. Most people will factor in the state pension when calculating their pension income. Pensioners still pay tax throughout their retirement if they earn more than the standard allowances.
Allowing pensioners to earn a little more income from savings is beneficial to all as it allows them to spend assisting the economy also it means that if social care is necessary they would likely have to pay for most of it.
The return on the £10k cap bond is £400pa on the longer period comparable with a typical return of £200 on current rates. Not a huge amount of money per week, about £4.00, for someone on a fixed income.
Here's another funny
Apparently Labour have "released" pictures of a Pink election battle bus to try and "Woo" the female vote
http://order-order.com/2015/02/10/bus-crash-labours-patriarchally-patronising-pink-van-slammed/
Naturally someone on that link has "Shopped" the back of the bus
Apparently Labour have "released" pictures of a Pink election battle bus to try and "Woo" the female vote
http://order-order.com/2015/02/10/bus-crash-labours-patriarchally-patronising-pink-van-slammed/
Naturally someone on that link has "Shopped" the back of the bus
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