Poll: General election voting intentions poll

Voting intentions in the General Election - only use the poll if you intend to vote

  • Alliance Party of Northern Ireland

    Votes: 2 0.3%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 287 42.0%
  • Democratic Unionist Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 67 9.8%
  • Labour

    Votes: 108 15.8%
  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 25 3.7%
  • Other party (not named)

    Votes: 15 2.2%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.3%
  • Respect Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 36 5.3%
  • Social Democratic and Labour Party

    Votes: 1 0.1%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 4 0.6%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 137 20.0%

  • Total voters
    684
  • Poll closed .
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No, they're not. Do you actually know what Marxism is?

Let's take a look. Marxism has the idea of a class struggle as a central ideal.

Green Left [the current Green Party] is critical of capitalism, and sees capitalism as incompatible with ideals like sustainability, peace and social justice. As such it places itself in the tradition of William Morris, the British eco-socialist who operated within the Marxist Social Democratic Federation and Socialist League.

It seeks to unite all socialists, anti-capitalists and radicals, within the Green Party and outside of it.

It also wants to redistribute wealth, nationalise certain private sector businesses, punish people with lots of money, get rid of our voting system, make everyone equal.

Let's see, where have I seen these ideals before. Ah yes, Marxism.
 
ukip for me as im from Thanet and we have a massive imigration problem and Farage has said Controlling and managing our borders is a priority so im voting ukip and Farage

also what harm will it do getting a fresh party in im sure they cant do any worse then the others have done over the years
 
It also wants to redistribute wealth, nationalise certain private sector businesses, punish people with lots of money, get rid of our voting system, make everyone equal.

Does it?

Well that's my vote going to them then. I've been looking for a true Marxist party for ages - at least since New Labour turned Tory.
 
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It also wants to redistribute wealth,

A concept not limited to Marxism.

nationalise certain private sector businesses,

Re-nationalise some industries that were public sector under Thatcher.

punish people with lots of money,

That's a very emotive way of putting it but, again, not a concept limited to Marxism.

get rid of our voting system

I don't understand what this has got to do with Marxism. It's also want a lot of parties would like to do.

You seem to be mistaking old school socialism for Marxism.
 
we have a small town called Cliftonville that is a no go area for english people due to Romanian and afghan gangs all crime is up sexual assult burglary stabbings car crime ie driving with no insurance or licence around 75% of the crime in this area is committed by immigrants
there is going to be a ross kemp on gangs later in the year he was there a few weeks ago filming
the gangs are going into shops demanding protection money from the shop keepers its mental

if you check out all the health stats the amount of Diseases that are on the up due to immigrants just in my area
scarlet fever is up 300% on last year
measles and mumps are up around 15%
plus lots more
also the english children are not getting the education they should due to over population of the schools and the teachers are having to spend more time with the non english speaking children as its harder for them to understand
 
I have a really novel idea, how about we stop caring about how services are delivered and start caring about how well services are delivered?

Profit is not the only way for money to be lost from service provision.

I agree. But I do feel that if profit is a part of the process then that means there is less money for the service. I all for outsourcing to NPOs and so on...and the problem is also that if you look at the companies that are getting these contracts they are not delivering the services well enough either.
 
Ed Miliband is running scared with the Tories up in the polls. He's going to have to climb in with the SNP if he wants to run this country and that will do no good for anyone, IMO.

If that happens then I hope the 5 years leads to major reforms in the Labour party post their 2020 defeat. We need a more credible, more centred Labour.
 
ukip for me as im from Thanet and we have a massive imigration problem...

South Thanet, like the rest of UKIP's primary target seats, has below national average immigration levels. It's positively perverse how hostility to immigration is highest in the areas least affected by it.
 
How do you stop the problem of such variation between schools, and the impact of varying abilities and willingness to learn?

How do Finland do it?

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...and-completely-get-away-with-it-10111693.html

What do you think of this Dolph? The government's plans to cut 400,000 adult education places? In my eyes this is exactly the sort of help and support that society should be providing to help people who may have made poor life decisions in the past.
 
South Thanet, like the rest of UKIP's primary target seats, has below national average immigration levels. It's positively perverse how hostility to immigration is highest in the areas least affected by it.

Maybe the effect of a relatively small amount of immigration in places like South Thanet has an exaggerated impact there. I know you like to pretend that things like the laws of Supply and Demand and other inconvenient truths don't apply when it comes to immigration, but common sense would dictate if you have a finite number of jobs, and an increased number of job seekers, then you're also going to have more disappointed people.
 
A quick glance at the outcomes of worldwide healthcare systems and their delivery approaches?

Which doesn't answer the question at all. What makes you think that you can control how well healthcare is delivered without considering how it is delivered?
 
Maybe the effect of a relatively small amount of immigration in places like South Thanet has an exaggerated impact there. I know you like to pretend that things like the laws of Supply and Demand and other inconvenient truths don't apply when it comes to immigration, but common sense would dictate if you have a finite number of jobs, and an increased number of job seekers, then you're also going to have more disappointed people.

We've been through this already in this thread. Do we really have to do it again?

I'll summarise: it should be obvious that the amount of demand created by a new worker must be approximately equal to the amount of supply they consume. Otherwise the economy can't add up. Which is exactly what the evidence shows: more immigration doesn't increase unemployment for native workers.

Your notion of a finite number of jobs completely ignores the reality of how economies function. More workers create more jobs.
 
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We've been through this already in this thread. Do we really have to do it again?

I'll summarise: it should be obvious amount of demand created by a new worker must be approximately equal to the amount of supply they consume. Otherwise the economy can't add up. Which is exactly what the evidence shows: more immigration doesn't increase unemployment for native workers.

Your notion of a finite number of jobs completely ignores the reality of how economies function. More workers create more jobs.

Are you really claiming that there are an infinite number of jobs in the economy?

I just don't trust these academic studies on immigration - they have all the hallmarks of propaganda; often looking at very specific things in a very specific way and ignoring the holistic effects. They have a terrible track record too - like that infamous study that said 13,000 Poles would come to the UK post 2001. Sure buried in the small print there's an important disclaimer, but it's the headline conclusions that gets used when setting policy.
 
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