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South Thanet, like the rest of UKIP's primary target seats, has below national average immigration levels. It's positively perverse how hostility to immigration is highest in the areas least affected by it.
We've been through this already in this thread. Do we really have to do it again?
I'll summarise: it should be obvious amount of demand created by a new worker must be approximately equal to the amount of supply they consume. Otherwise the economy can't add up. Which is exactly what the evidence shows: more immigration doesn't increase unemployment for native workers.
Your notion of a finite number of jobs completely ignores the reality of how economies function. More workers create more jobs.
Are you really claiming that there are an infinite number of jobs in the economy?
I just don't trust these academic studies on immigration - they have all the hallmarks of propaganda; often looking at very specific things in a very specific way and ignoring the holistic effects.
Maybe the effect of a relatively small amount of immigration in places like South Thanet has an exaggerated impact there. I know you like to pretend that things like the laws of Supply and Demand and other inconvenient truths don't apply when it comes to immigration, but common sense would dictate if you have a finite number of jobs, and an increased number of job seekers, then you're also going to have more disappointed people.
We've been through this already in this thread. Do we really have to do it again?
I'll summarise: it should be obvious amount of demand created by a new worker must be approximately equal to the amount of supply they consume. Otherwise the economy can't add up. Which is exactly what the evidence shows: more immigration doesn't increase unemployment for native workers.
Your notion of a finite number of jobs completely ignores the reality of how economies function. More workers create more jobs.
also the influx of immigrants puts strain on our already strained services ie ambulance service police doctors hospitals even thou thanet is below national average immigration levels its making such a big impact on our local services they are nearly at breaking point you just have to go to margate hospital where you will have a 4+ hour wait in a&e because it will be full with immigrants demanding that they see a doctor for minor injurys or problems just because they dont want to wait to see a gp they are just a drain on our very limited resources
Are you implying that right with economics isn't authoritarian?.Leftwing economics is inherently authoritarian, just because they are socially liberal doesn't mean they don't demand control of property instead.
Are you sure you are not just dismissing them because they don't agree with your bias?.Are you really claiming that there are an infinite number of jobs in the economy?
I just don't trust these academic studies on immigration - they have all the hallmarks of propaganda; often looking at very specific things in a very specific way and ignoring the holistic effects. They have a terrible track record too - like that infamous study that said 13,000 Poles would come to the UK post 2001. Sure buried in the small print there's an important disclaimer, but it's the headline conclusions that gets used when setting policy.
Indeed, working within a field which was once nationalised & is now private I can attest to the hilariously misguided belief that privatisation drives down costs.I agree. But I do feel that if profit is a part of the process then that means there is less money for the service. I all for outsourcing to NPOs and so on...and the problem is also that if you look at the companies that are getting these contracts they are not delivering the services well enough either.
You are crapping all over your argument about the language barriers encountered by migrants, and how that is detrimental to the schooling of children in the area, by continuing to barely string words together.
its a joke they should be paying to use our services we do by paying tax
its not going to be long and we will be the minority in this country just google most common baby name in uk and that just tells you something is wrong
You are aware that position 2-50 of the list of most popular boys names of 2014 are all western.its not going to be long and we will be the minority in this country just google most common baby name in uk and that just tells you something is wrong
You are aware that position 2-50 of the list of most popular boys names of 2014 are all western.
Have you considered that perhaps it's because the name is overly popular within a certain cultural set?, not that all babies in the UK are called Muhammad?.
Top 10 boys names to give an example
Muhammad
Oliver
Jack
Noah
Jacob
Charlie
Harry
Joshua
James
Ethan
Firstly, why would this both you?.if you go back to 2005 said name is number 23
if you go back to 1995 its no 545
so your telling me its nothing to do with immigration