Poll: General election voting intentions poll

Voting intentions in the General Election - only use the poll if you intend to vote

  • Alliance Party of Northern Ireland

    Votes: 2 0.3%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 287 42.0%
  • Democratic Unionist Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 67 9.8%
  • Labour

    Votes: 108 15.8%
  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 25 3.7%
  • Other party (not named)

    Votes: 15 2.2%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.3%
  • Respect Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 36 5.3%
  • Social Democratic and Labour Party

    Votes: 1 0.1%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 4 0.6%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 137 20.0%

  • Total voters
    684
  • Poll closed .
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UKIP committed to spending 2% of GDP on Defence, will fund by cutting foreign aid budget (0.7% of GDP): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32015331

This is vital imo, we're facing increasing and very real threats from Russia and the Islamic State, yet imposing massive cuts to our defence spending. That doesn't make sense.

That's why we need a united (one state) Europe and associated European army.
 
Just found an interesting website that I thought was worth sharing

https://fullfact.org/

Full Fact is an independent fact checking organisation.
We provide free tools, information and advice so that anyone can check the claims we hear from politicians and the media.


They'll be working full time in the 6 weeks before the election fact-checking.
 
Just found an interesting website that I thought was worth sharing

https://fullfact.org/

Full Fact is an independent fact checking organisation.
We provide free tools, information and advice so that anyone can check the claims we hear from politicians and the media.


They'll be working full time in the 6 weeks before the election fact-checking.

You have to be careful about websites that trumpet themselves to be completely independent. Normally there's always someone with an ulterior motive funding it

http://enzaferreri.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/uk-fact-checker-full-fact-not-impartial.html

Expect some left wing views to come pouring out the website
 
You have to be careful about websites that trumpet themselves to be completely independent. Normally there's always someone with an ulterior motive funding it

http://enzaferreri.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/uk-fact-checker-full-fact-not-impartial.html

Expect some left wing views to come pouring out the website

Welcome back from your holiday.

That's a rambling and illogical post for an author claiming to be "a firm believer in evidence-based reasoning in every sphere".

Her evidence for "ulterior motives" as you put it seem to be based on her interpretation of the front page of each of the websites of the funding bodies.

Why does she gets bogged down for six paragraphs writing about "white victims of non-white racism"? She's shoehorning in unrelated points.

She also writes
Yorkshire Conservative Councillor Roger Taylor called JUST West Yorkshire, a group affiliated with The Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust, an "ultra-left organization".
So she's criticising Full Fact because of its funding from JRCT because of its affiliation with JUST because of what a councillor said of it? :rolleyes: lol

She's set out to attack Full Fact and ended up clutching at straws. Why did you share this link with me? What do you think it means? Or can you only "hit and run" links that come up from a cursory search without forming your own points?
 
She's set out to attack Full Fact and ended up clutching at straws. Why did you share this link with me? What do you think it means? Or can you only "hit and run" links that come up from a cursory search without forming your own points?

Come on, Joeyjojo, it's a very clear point. She sums it up nicely in the final paragraph:

Full Fact is a bit like Wikipedia, pretending to be impartial and just offering "facts", but the people giving this information have a very specific, culturally Marxist, ideology colouring their fact-checking. I suspect that Dimbleby wouldn't have advertised it otherwise.​

"A bit like Wikipedia" - you really can't get more damning than that, can you?
 
Interesting to see that Conservatives still win I think only due to there being no other viable candidate South of the Border.
 
She also writes So she's criticising Full Fact because of its funding from JRCT because of its affiliation with JUST because of what a councillor said of it? :rolleyes: lol

Or maybe she has an issue (As do i) that one of the charities (The Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust) funding it also have links to funding Cage
 
You have to be careful about websites that trumpet themselves to be completely independent. Normally there's always someone with an ulterior motive funding it

http://enzaferreri.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/uk-fact-checker-full-fact-not-impartial.html

Expect some left wing views to come pouring out the website

Full Fact is run by a friend of mine and so I read their output quite often. They have no ulterior motive - just a strong desire to make politicians accountable for what they say.

Check out their website. Full Fact attacks Labour as much as it does the Consevatives.
 
Come on, Joeyjojo, it's a very clear point. She sums it up nicely in the final paragraph:

Full Fact is a bit like Wikipedia, pretending to be impartial and just offering "facts", but the people giving this information have a very specific, culturally Marxist, ideology colouring their fact-checking. I suspect that Dimbleby wouldn't have advertised it otherwise.​

"A bit like Wikipedia" - you really can't get more damning than that, can you?

I expected more from you Mr Jack. She may have a "clear" point (that the authors have a "culturally Marxist ideology") but she provides no evidence for it whatsoever. Have you skimmed any of the articles on there? They're so dry there's no room for ideology! :p

The comparison with Wikipedia is weak too. The staff bios (all 11 of them) are available online, unlike often-anonymous Wikipedia contributors, and the list of funding bodies is given on the funding page. What other criticisms of Wikipedia could be relevant?
 
I expected more from you Mr Jack. She may have a "clear" point (that the authors have a "culturally Marxist ideology") but she provides no evidence for it whatsoever. Have you skimmed any of the articles on there? They're so dry there's no room for ideology! :p

I may be way off base but I've got this sneaking suspicion that Mr Jack was being sarcastic.

I've got no idea whether Full Fact is the only UK based independent fact checking website as it seems to imply with "Full Fact is the UK's independent factchecking organisation" but I don't see the harm if you're using it as one source from many. Certainly the idea of having someone or something checking facts to see whether claims made are valid is no bad thing to my mind.
 
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