I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum - 0.926. 26th out of 650 constituencies apparently.
It was Labour at the last election but our MP, Glenda Jackson, is standing down. Anything could happen.
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I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum - 0.926. 26th out of 650 constituencies apparently.
It was Labour at the last election but our MP, Glenda Jackson, is standing down. Anything could happen.
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I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum - 0.926. 26th out of 650 constituencies apparently.
It was Labour at the last election but our MP, Glenda Jackson, is standing down. Anything could happen.
The question is will the people that voted LibDem last time out vote Labour or utterly lose the plot and vote for the Greens?
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And don't forget his two *******s, the first of which he didn't even bother representing himself on the birth certificate, he managed this feat of attachment for the second one, then he managed to get himself married when he became labour leader, as the party spin team told him to.
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Can someone explain to be what pension benefits a migrant worker is entitled to? If they remain in this country, and if they leave the country after working and paying national insurance for a period of 5 10 20 30 years?
Is the next generation going to have to pay pensions and winter furl payments to millions living abroad?
Is the next generation going to have to pay pensions and winter furl payments to millions living abroad?
Well, the current state pension eligibility requires 30 years of NI 'credits' (you get a yearly credit in various ways) This changes after 2016 to 10 years....
How that is going to work for say a polish person working here for 10 yrs then goes back home, I have no idea
Edit. But the gov does
How that is going to work for say a polish person working here for 10 yrs then goes back home, I have no idea
Edit. But the gov does
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Do you mean the UK economy turns over £2.5t a year and therefore we as a country are quite productive or did you mean specifically that native Britons contributed that? If the latter then how do you define a native Briton and how far back do you have to go to be considered one?
If it's referencing to the 2006 World Cup then isn't the story potentially almost 10 years out of date? I don't know what the chaps views are now but if you want to argue that peoples history is unimportant as you do for UKIP candidates then surely you've got to argue it as unimportant for other people as well?
0.048 in my constituency, I'm still intending to vote regardless of that though as I think it's important to do.
It's only parties that have got a seat in Parliament on the poll options, you can vote for other in the poll as your preference for Al Murray's party if you wish. The forum software only allows a poll of up to 20 so it would be impossible to add all the various other parties and independents that will stand - leaving some out randomly seems unfair so they're grouped into one option.
Do you have the figures for the general population? Otherwise you are making a comparison with only have the available data.
Sorry Tony, we now trade MORE with the rest of the world than EU: Three days ago Tony Blair repeated the Left's mantra that we can't survive outside Europe... The facts are very different
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ide-Europe-facts-different.html#ixzz3WtYrUCzL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ide-Europe-facts-different.html#ixzz3WtYrUCzL
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Yes, but what exactly does that mean, if the target switches to 10 years, is that 10 years from 2016, or ten years in total?
As it would suggest those who have been here say from 2006 to 2016 will have worked ten years, and can then claim the pension when they reach pension age no matter where they are resident?
Didn't they also change the pension so it is a flat rate, with contributions only making up a small portion of it?
So 10 years work in the UK guarantees everyone the flat rate pension when they hit 67 years old?
I am somewhat concerned that in 30 years time, we're building another time bomb ready to go off in the pensions department, and given how much of 'welfare' is currently spent on pensions, this might not be a good idea.
Perhaps I am misunderstanding?
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The 10 year working requirement is just the minimum years working in the UK they still have to be of retirement age and successfully claim which will be 70+ or nonexistent by the time the 20+ y/o east Europeans reach retirement age.
Money talks
Maybe he carries a large package, of er cash, lets face it the playah can talk and listen to women which always goes down well.
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Yes, but it is another time bomb.
Similar to the student loans time bomb recently created.
People complain about student fees, but most will never pay off their loans, and once the debt is written off it becomes a further mess.
They will have to change this policy into something that actually pays for itself.
The pensions I would like to see extrapolations, not for the Eastern Europeans, but for everyone in general, so see what is paying for what going forward.
I know a Scandinavian bloke that gets a pension from the uk and one from the country he was born in.
I assume it would stay that way if he went back to his country of birth
I think he used to be in his countries merchant navy and ended up settling and working in the UK before he hit retirement age
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Well the 2% figure should be seen in reference to the 34% figure, the natives are not having to make a case for entry, the natives' ancestors built the place, it's the immigrants that need to sing for their supper as it were, make their case as to why they should be allowed in and what they can offer the people and the country that they wish to become a part of. If your numbers are correct we need to stop the 2% brigade yesterday.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...d-against-people-of-other-races-10062731.html
"Around a quarter (26 per cent) of the general population said they were slightly racially prejudiced, just over half the number of Ukip voters."
UKIP voters are also much likely to the daily mail than other voters (same survey). So calling UKIP daily mail reading right-wing racists is accurate for around 50% of them!
No, because the 2% completely misses a bunch of costs that would be required in training.
Putting that aside, nothing stops the UK cutting no -EU immigration to zero. We can do that ASAP, we don't have to withdrawal the the EU, we can put whatever restrictions we want there. Those are the migrants that undergo control, so what does that tell you? Uncontrolled EU immigration is more beneficial than non-EU controlled immigration, therefore immigration controls are Ineffective or even detrimemtal.
It's not a time bomb because they would have contributed the taxes over that time, and much more taxes than they receive in benefits compare to Brtis. If they move to a foreign country then Britian would no longer be responsible for health costs, making a huge saving.
Plus there is the fact that unless they spend significant time in the UK, like 30 years, then their pension is going to be very small relative to taxes paid. And most immigrants stay under 10 years AFIK (will research that).
What is clear is they are less of a time bomb than British adults:
They are net contributors and if they leave we won't pay health costs. If they stay then they are still a net positive because for the most part we haven't paid any education or child raising costs.
And the other important thing is because this is an EU ruling to make is fair across countries. If a British worker lives in another EU country for a significant amount of time then they are entitled to collect the foreign pension even if they return to the To retire.it would be extremely unfair if you couldn't get your pensions to follow you.
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Sorry D.P. I meant a British time bomb, not purely talking about immigrants, as with the student loans.
I thought pension were not longer small or big, but there was a standard level and a topped up level, two levels, is there still a sliding scale depending on hours worked?
I thought pension were not longer small or big, but there was a standard level and a topped up level, two levels, is there still a sliding scale depending on hours worked?
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