Poll: General election voting round 5 (final one)

[do_ron_ron]

Confirms their Redtory attitude tbh.

As the Tories have moved even further right to counter UKIP, Labour has had to do the same. They would certainly comfortably fit into a Tory Govt of my younger days.

 

[do_ron_ron]

Yep pretty much sums up the head case nationalists, they just shout down anyone that doesn't agree with them.

Except the guy was from an anti-austerity group;

The protest was organised by Sean Clerkin, who described his group as "anti-austerity campaigners".

He told the BBC that details of the event had been passed to him by a disillusioned member of the Labour Party in East Renfrewshire.

 

[robgmun]

More information about the sex segregation at the Labour rally.

The weight if this hypocrisy needs to be more widely publicised, it's outrageous that a party that on one face stands up to women's rights then pander to a culture that denys them

 

[spudbynight]

That is your failing and has no bearing on reality

The SNP doesn't have to work with Labour, they just have to hate the Tories.

There he is, the D.P. we all know and love.

 

[Bear]

Except the guy was from an anti-austerity group;

He was an SNP voter, was yelling vote SNP amongst other things. It was filmed and I saw it on TV. Even when Nicola Sturgeon was questioned about it, she condemned it.

 

[RoboCod]

Ed has basically convinced him of the errors of his ways, he should be applauded for that. While all Cowardly Cameron could do was dismiss him, and his followers as a joke. Despite the Tory smears, I think Ed has shown himself to be a pretty heavyweight operator.

Cameron is right, he is a joke.

 

[RoboCod]

Labour have just trotted out Steve Coogan. He states:

"I'm successful and quite comfortably off."

Not much hope for most people if their definition of comfortable is a net worth of 5-10 million.


How on earth does any party think that celebrity endorsed adverts helps engage them with the regular voter. I am sure the Conservatives are as bad but that is several I have seen now from Labour.

Because the general public will connect with coogan, he's a household name, I don't think many will look at him as a millionaire and "not one of them".

 

[kindai]

Because the general public will connect with coogan, he's a household name, I don't think many will look at him as a millionaire and "not one of them".

Who the **** is Steve Coogan?

 

[dowie]

Labour have just trotted out Steve Coogan. He states:

"I'm successful and quite comfortably off."

Not much hope for most people if their definition of comfortable is a net worth of 5-10 million.


How on earth does any party think that celebrity endorsed adverts helps engage them with the regular voter. I am sure the Conservatives are as bad but that is several I have seen now from Labour.

He's becoming a bit too much like Alan Partridge in real life...

 

[dowie]

would be interesting to see a Labour minority govt backed up by Lib Dems & Tories on a policy by policy basis...

Tis also a possibility for the Tories if they are just short of a coalition with UKIP and the Lib Dems...

Labour have drawn a line in the sand and said they won't work with the SNP... they'll need the Tories and Lib Dems on side if they want to do anything half sensible budget wise

 

[StriderX]

If they want to continue to lose support for the next election, yes they will of course cement their new tory image by working with the tories...fantastic idea.

Ken McCluskey would sooner see Ed deported for having a lisp.

 

[John40]

I see labour has gone slightly ahead of UKIP in the poll which is bizarre.

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Good to see someone passionate about this dull election. Personally I think that we should all heckle and abuse MPs. They take decisions that affect us detrimentally and expect us to sit back while they give us a party election broadcast.

So if we all heckled, used loudspeakers etc how would you have a clue what anyone stood for?

Far better to allow free and unopposed speech, if someone wants to listen let them. If you think you have a better view, get a box, stand on it and convince people. Far far far better debating than just shouting people down you disagree with.

 

[MrMoonX]

No way will labour work with he Tories it will end the party, mind you it's exactly what clegg did; work with the nasty party at the opposite end of your ideology

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

As the Tories have moved even further right to counter UKIP, Labour has had to do the same. They would certainly comfortably fit into a Tory Govt of my younger days.

Who cares, as a population we are evolving and changing. I doubt you would find many people at all to vote for a labour party of the 70s in todays world, try trotting out a manifesto from that era.
The welfare state was completely different, it was about people IN JOBS, represented by unions, getting more not those who aren't. Was practically no welfare as people would conceive it now.

If you want a more left wing party you can vote for green or SNP, welsh lady.
SNP are riding the wave still, otherwise there is no massive support for a left wing party currently in the UK.

I think the two party system is pretty much broken, not that that is a bad thing. Sooner or later we will hopefully move to a more balanced representative government. I would like to see far more power to the public, directly influencing decisions. Really when you think about it, electing a government to make all decisions suited a poorly educated workforce, once the general level of education increased we should have had a better system

 

[Macro]

The SNP are likely to vote for a Labour Queen's speech even without any formal deals, because not to do so would be to betray their voters and support a tory government.

So we get lumbered with a weak minority government lead by a untrustworthy union man so desperate for power he was prepared to do over his own brother, propped up by a party who has no interest in England, Wales and Northern Ireland except if it's to secure their own position and give every possible advantage to Scotland at the expense of the rest of the Union based on the premise of "anyone but the Tories".

On the bright side if it pans out that way Labour will end up pretty much unelectable for the next 10 years as the electorate punish Milliband for whatever sly justification he ends up trying to sell for doing some kind of "understanding" with SNP in the name of the working class NHS poor <insert tedious political stereotype here>. How many weeks into a Labour government before he ends up using the phrase "I have been persuaded against my personal beliefs to work with Nicola Sturgeon, in return for which I have negotiated hard to secure her guarantee she'll not call for a Scottish independence referendum during this parliament".

In the mean time a minority Labour government unable to do anything without the support on a vote by vote support basis form the SNP will spend the next 4 years unable to do anything of any consequence other than try to reduce the deficit by the standard Labour tactic of borrowing more, throwing money around and hoping no one notices the mess their making again.

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Labour have drawn a line in the sand and said they won't work with the SNP... they'll need the Tories and Lib Dems on side if they want to do anything half sensible budget wise

I hope they stick to it, I would far happily see the three of the above work together for the good of the country.
All credit to the lib dems they have already done it once
There is probably less difference between Lab and Con than Lab and SNP.

I am still completely unconvinced that calculators work properly in Scotland, numbers didn't add up in Indy vote and don't now.
What ever happened to the tight fisted legendary scots man? They all (well the vocal ones) seem like spend now worry about tomorrow tomorrow folk now

 

[PermaBanned]

So desperate for power he was prepared to do over his own brother.

Jesus christ that's the most pathetic criticism i've heard of Ed. The only reason i've come up with for people thinking that's a reasonable thing to say is that they're older siblings who haven't clocked into the fact that we don't live in the damn 13th Century and we don't rely on a "line of succession" to determine such things.

Anyway what you're saying implies any sort of formal deal with the SNP, when that entire discussion was about how Labour need no such deal of any sort to govern.

 

[Macro]

Anyway what you're saying implies any sort of formal deal with the SNP, when that entire discussion was about how Labour need no such deal of any sort to govern.

You see, there it is... No, no, no, it's not a "formal" deal with the SNP propping up a Labour minority government, how very dare you. We just spend a lot of time together, rely on their votes to get anything done and seem to have a habit of voting the same way on some key issues including, purely coincidentally you understand, full fiscal autonomy for Scotland. It's not a "formal" deal, honest, says "call me Ed"

 

[do_ron_ron]

He was an SNP voter, was yelling vote SNP amongst other things. It was filmed and I saw it on TV. Even when Nicola Sturgeon was questioned about it, she condemned it.

No, he was an anti-austerity campaigner who said he would be voting for the SNP this time as they were on an anti-austerity ticket. Subtle difference. Naturally Sturgeon condemned it she does not want her campaign to be seen in a negative light as has or would any other party leader.