Poll: German Grand Prix 2018, Hockenheim - Race 11/21

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deuse said:
Hamilton never crossed the white line.

At least look up the rules first.
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Okay, here you go:

4. Entrance to the pit lane

a) The section of track leading to the pit lane shall be referred to as the “pit entry”.

b) During competition, access to the pit lane is allowed only through the pit entry.

c) Any driver intending to leave the track or to enter the pit lane should make sure that it is safe to do so.

d) Except in cases of force majeure (accepted as such by the Stewards), the crossing, in any direction, of the line separating the pit entry and the track by a car entering the pit lane is prohibited.



He's been summoned by Stewards, this should be a 5 second penalty. He was told to push hard at the end but Bottas finished within 5 seconds so should put him in 2nd position.
 
SpartaK said:
Okay, here you go:

4. Entrance to the pit lane

a) The section of track leading to the pit lane shall be referred to as the “pit entry”.

b) During competition, access to the pit lane is allowed only through the pit entry.

c) Any driver intending to leave the track or to enter the pit lane should make sure that it is safe to do so.

d) Except in cases of force majeure (accepted as such by the Stewards), the crossing, in any direction, of the line separating the pit entry and the track by a car entering the pit lane is prohibited.



He's been summoned by Stewards, this should be a 5 second penalty. He was told to push hard at the end but Bottas finished within 5 seconds so should put him in 2nd position.
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It shouldn't be a 5 second penalty at all, it was a penalty for Kimi because it was Baku, they specifically gave the penalty because it's a dangerous pit entry due to the speed and being both a very short pit entry and directly off the racing line. Slowing for pitlane then changing your mind and pulling into the line of a car at 330kph is exceptionally dangerous.

This is a rule in which at any tracks they deem the pit entry particularly dangerous they add it to the event note that going in the pit entry and choosing not to pit will get a penalty.

There is no such danger here and there was no such event note that drivers should avoid this. For consistency there should absolutely not be a penalty, if there is it's utter bull.

If you look in the image with more information in the reasoning they specifically site that the penalty is given because the penalty was required as stated in the event notes.

Baku pit entry is entirely different to here. Some pit entries are just insanely dangerous. Paul Ricard jesus, that pit lane entry and exit is hilarious. This is a track with plenty of space, so much extra space on entry and exit to make them so much safer, no excuse. Here there was no danger, he came back on off the racing line under a safety car when on one was going fast.
 
SpartaK said:
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Which even mentions the event notes. Special requirements for that race. Can't say a penalty for Lewis is impossible but it'd certainly be harsh.
 
SpartaK said:
Okay, here you go:

4. Entrance to the pit lane

a) The section of track leading to the pit lane shall be referred to as the “pit entry”.

b) During competition, access to the pit lane is allowed only through the pit entry.

c) Any driver intending to leave the track or to enter the pit lane should make sure that it is safe to do so.

d) Except in cases of force majeure (accepted as such by the Stewards), the crossing, in any direction, of the line separating the pit entry and the track by a car entering the pit lane is prohibited.



He's been summoned by Stewards, this should be a 5 second penalty. He was told to push hard at the end but Bottas finished within 5 seconds so should put him in 2nd position.
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FIA race director Charlie Whiting points out that Hamilton didn't break the regulation regarding the pit entry bollard in the event notes. Confirms Raikkonen's penalty in Baku was a different incident based on event notes, not International Sporting Code
 
drunkenmaster said:
It shouldn't be a 5 second penalty at all, it was a penalty for Kimi because it was Baku, they specifically gave the penalty because it's a dangerous pit entry due to the speed and being both a very short pit entry and directly off the racing line. Slowing for pitlane then changing your mind and pulling into the line of a car at 330kph is exceptionally dangerous.

This is a rule in which at any tracks they deem the pit entry particularly dangerous they add it to the event note that going in the pit entry and choosing not to pit will get a penalty.

There is no such danger here and there was no such event note that drivers should avoid this. For consistency there should absolutely not be a penalty, if there is it's utter bull.

If you look in the image with more information in the reasoning they specifically site that the penalty is given because the penalty was required as stated in the event notes.

Baku pit entry is entirely different to here. Some pit entries are just insanely dangerous. Paul Ricard jesus, that pit lane entry and exit is hilarious. This is a track with plenty of space, so much extra space on entry and exit to make them so much safer, no excuse. Here there was no danger, he came back on off the racing line under a safety car when on one was going fast.
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And what about the fact that all 4 wheels can’t cross the white line until after the pit exit line? Once he’s in the pit entry lane he’s under those rules surely?
 
SpartaK said:
And what about the fact that all 4 wheels can’t cross the white line until after the pit exit line? Once he’s in the pit entry lane he’s under those rules surely?
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You're really clinging onto this for some reason?

After qualy it was post upon post of how Hamilton should be penalized for pushing his car on track.
After race it's now post upon post of how Hamilton should be penalized for abandoning a pit entry.

Maybe he should be penalized for not putting the toilet seat down too?

Just seems so much Hamilton hate on here from our very own OcUK Tifosi.

If only F1 had a whole room of stewards who looked into this stuff so we wouldn't have to. Liberty should get on to that. Seems like a good idea.
 
From Sky F1 live blog
As you can see below, FIA race director Charlie Whiting has been speaking to the media.

Some headline bullet points as we await the Hamilton outcome:

- "No specific precedent" for this situation - stresses Raikkonen in Baku was specific to that event

- No Ferrari protest

- While he is not part of the stewards, Whiting reckons any penalty would most likely be 'on the lower end of the scale' of the options available
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realscot said:
If you can't enter the pitlane after the bollard for safety reasons, surely those same safety concerns would apply to what Lewis did? If there is a penalty it would be deserved tbh.
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I think those safety reasons are more for the safety of other cars entering the pitlane, pitlanes are narrow with often nowhere for avoiding action to be taken if a car suddenly veers in from nowhere, as opposed to a car re-entering the track from the grass where there is more often that not a large wide pit straight (unless track specific reason such as Baku).
Well thats my interpretation of the reasons for the pit bollard rules.
 
A Finnish sports website is reporting that Bottas has been promoted to first and Hamilton's been demoted to third. Wholly unofficial mind you.

Actually, thinking that's BS. A 5 second penalty would drop him to 2nd, 10 seconds would be 4th. Can't see them applying an 8 second penalty lol.
 
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